optimized sources

[_heinz]

download of Fedora ended sucessful now.  thanks to Raistmer
Next download is running:  Windows Server 2008 Enterprise, 12 hours downloadtime....we are waiting...

[Raistmer]

[_heinz]

set the MS_Virtualization_Overview_v1.1.doc into our testproject , it is worth to have a look at it ...

[_heinz]

Hi hidden user...looking up again 

[Raistmer]

I have doubt about great use ofVWM for purpose of tuning app. With VM one can see if app will work under different OSes, but no timing at all IMHO...
The same with instruction set. Even with VM I cant emulate SSE4.1 on my Venice IMHO

[_heinz]

We will try out all this stuff of Windows2008...and we have always the possibility to use a boot menue at the beginning to load the OS under which we will tuning the app directly.
That would be very interesting...

[Jason G]

.....Even with VM I cant emulate SSE4.1 on my Venice IMHO

LOL, maybe if you clench really hard like Hiro from Heroes it will magically turn into a Wolfdale  .  Although I use VM's for testing,  I think any kind of timing benchmarks would be a waste of time.  This is why I wish to run dual boot to test 64 bit for myself,  might as well get you some sse41 PGO data while I'm there, running native.

 I think in future PGO instrumented runs will be okay in VM because we have proven them to be NOT hardware bound, (at least with light PGO)  but definitely code coverage and data dependant (which will execute the same on any hardware that supports the build (hopefully) . This *might be* one good argument against installing the code dispatching mechanisms like in 2.4 & stock .. PGO data would have to be generically targeted across builds and include all the functions, so performance target gets 'diluted'. 

Also relative runs to compare app speeds may be okay in VM, but not too representative of native speeds except *maybe* where there is some hardware virtualisation support available.

Jason

[_heinz]

jason,
as I have seen hardware virtualisation is available there. 
Today I got the email from Redmont for the evaluation with a lot of further infos.
thanks Microsoft. 

[Jason G]

jason,
as I have seen hardware virtualisation is available there. 
Today I got the email from Redmont for the evaluation with a lot of further infos.
thanks Microsoft. 

I think your new server is designed with something like this in mind :
    - Run a native Linux (Fedora core with custom compiled kernel) , public facing webserverapache/PHP
    - dedicated MySql database VM, allows optimal filesystem configuration for the database(s)
    - Windows Server Host, For serving asp pages & dotnet web application & intranet stuff, maybe running an exchange server and nt domain
    - preferred Host OS as desired, probably a Pro edition of Windows, or a Fluffy Linux Variant as workstation
 
Now that saves a lot of hardware if you need all those things in a small to medium business,  Lots of power saved too

Jason.

   

[_heinz]

Fedora is the right one...
have now some installation packages
1. Fedora
1.1 CellBE
1.2 OS/390
2.  Server2008
2.1 SDK_2008
2.2 VS2008
2.3 ATI- GPU-developer kit

a lot of work ....to found, get, and later install it

heinz

[_heinz]

did anybody know howmany place will be needed for a normal install of Fedora. Is a 4GB CF-disk big enough ?
the IDE port can be equipt with 2 CF-Cards
thanks
modify: found this
The /usr directory holds the majority of software content on a Fedora system. For an installation of the default set of software, allocate at least 4 GB of space. If you are a software developer or plan to use your Fedora system to learn software development skills, you may want to at least double this allocation.
here are some important links:
Fedora for You
Fedora 8 Installation Guide
Fedora Forums
Fedora Wiki
Fedora Documentation
Linux Documentation Project
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Documentation

so we have a lot to read
 

[Jason G]

yeah, fedora is a bit sophisticated for me, about 12 years since I used Linux.   I'd imagine the size requirement, like most Linux installations, would depend on what packages you wish to install, and what you want to use the OS for, If you don't need a graphical desktop it could be tiny.  I'd guess that If you plan to run a gui, webserver, database server, development tools to rebuild a custom kernel, and a swap partition too, then 4GB might be pushing it.. But for just a single user thing to develop and run small boinc Apps it might be heaps of room. Combined 8Gb might be more than enough for just about anything except high volume server.

I will be cranking up Ubuntu in a vm next week and I am considering doing a Linux  systems administration course and Windows server Certification in parallel. not sure yet

[_heinz]

wow, new 32GB Transcend CompactFlashs are available price 132 Euro
read/write 45MB/21,5MB pro second and ECC correction, PIO Mod 6, UDMA 4, ATA
Thats enough to install a full XP.....
since a year I have already 2 machines with CF running for testing....our MMx builds
machine 1  a 200MMx with a 4GB Transcend 266x running w98
machine 2 a dual-200MMx with a 2GB Transcend 120x running NT4 Workstation
both machines run fine, and are very quick...and they are integrated in my private network...

heinz

[_heinz]

First Windows High Performance Computing (HPC) User Group Meeting on April 22, 2008
RWTH_RZ_Aachen

Microsoft HPC++ look at News
have a look to explore it...

heinz

[_heinz]

while I'm waiting for the last tools I invite you to have a look where the river Sauer kissed the Rhin.. 
heinz