x38g reports

[_heinz]

Yeah that underreporting of VRAM is a problem for you for sure:

It actually did what it's supposed to.  which is a surprise, as I'm still probing at the memory initialisation sequence.  Resolving why your ION only reports 64MiB should solve your issue.

Jason

Version: 275.33 WHQL
Freigabedatum: 2011.06.01
the latest whql driver and the driver before show wrong values, so I must go more backwards with the driver installation.

Is'nt it a shame that the the latest whql driver has such error again. Blame nvidia. 
Or is it BOINC that shows the wrong value ? ?
heinz

[Jason G]

Is'nt it a shame that the the latest whql driver has such error again. Blame nvidia. 

Is that the verde drivers Heinz ?  I will update my ION2 (Not currently running Boinc) & see what that says.

[_heinz]

Is'nt it a shame that the the latest whql driver has such error again. Blame nvidia. 

Is that the verde drivers Heinz ?  I will update my ION2 (Not currently running Boinc) & see what that says.

It is not the verde
verde is there --> http://www.nvidia.de/object/notebook-win7-winvista-275.33-whql-driver-de.html
As far as I know the verde is still for laptops.
My R3600 is not a laptop

heinz

[Jason G]

My R3600 is not a laptop

try it anyway 

[Edit:] downloading onto my netbook now

For the desktop listing there also seems to be a newer beta, will check out the release notes for that

Update: with verde 275.33, Boinc shows 434MiB VRAM on my ION2, so a bit less than the previous driver (That said 444MiB).

Could there be some BIOS aperture size or similar setting for you Heinz, that is limiting the reported memory ?

[_heinz]

The verde driver did not install.
No compatible hardware found.
Now is latest 27533 installed, in the controlpanel of NVIDIA is "Autosearch Updates" marked. 
20.06.2011 18:24:20      NVIDIA GPU 0: ION (driver version 27533, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 64MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)

hmm... Till now I have never looked in the BIOS of the R3600.

heinz
modify:
BOINC 6.10.60 shows:
28.04.2011 12:45:52      NVIDIA GPU 0: ION (driver version 27051, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 306MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)
anyhow curious 306 MB ?
but this was the last working version(27051 beta)
and this shows ~250
On the ION Boinc shows the driver
07.03.2011 16:36:18      NVIDIA GPU 0: ION (driver version 27032, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 242MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)

[_heinz]

Hi Jason,
The Querying for a CUDA Device is so different in the OPTIMUS Technology,
 see http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/3_2_prod/toolkit/docs/CUDA_Developer_Guide_for_Optimus_Platforms.pdf
 page 3

have a look !
heinz

[_heinz]

hi Jason,
I installed latest nvidia beta driver on my laptop, 275.50-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-beta
BOINC 6.12.26 shows:
20.06.2011 22:23:06 |  | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 540M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 962MB, 172 GFLOPS peak)

275.33-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql has the same issue.
in general, there must be something wrong in the driver detection of BOINC.

Although,   I can run primegrid.

heinz

[Jason G]

... there must be something wrong in the driver detection of BOINC.

Good possibility.  At some stage (when I'm bored)  I'll look at how they detect that, to see if it uses driver APIs etc properly.

[Claggy]

... there must be something wrong in the driver detection of BOINC.

Good possibility.  At some stage (when I'm bored)  I'll look at how they detect that, to see if it uses driver APIs etc properly.

I wonder if the driver is now reporting the Real amount of RAM the Ion has, and now isn't reporting the extra system RAM the BIOS settings add,

Claggy

[Jason G]

I wonder if the driver is now reporting the Real amount of RAM the Ion has, and now isn't reporting the extra system RAM the BIOS settings add,

That would seem to break the WDDM driver model, which basically says you get what you're given.  I would have thought issues on one ION should appear on another.  I haven't looked if there is a BIOS setting for mine as it has 512MiB dedicated & Windows 7, so system shared amount is determined by Turbocache functionality.  I'll probably do that.

As I recall, You're good at working out complicated stuff like NewCredit  .  You could, if you're bored at some stage, go through the document at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487348.aspx  , to see if there's anything related , or especially anything I missed that I might need to know when working out the difference to XP Driver Model ( regarding the performance jump at various drivers & XP-WDDM performance difference with older simpler application code, etc )

[Edit:] checked my ION Netbook, no video related settings there at all, oh well
Jason

[_heinz]

Hi Jason,
with my ION R3600 I'm going back to driver 270.32
21.06.2011 10:06:40      NVIDIA GPU 0: ION (driver version 27032, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 242MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)
If I'm lookink up with "AIDA64 Extreme Edition" it shows:
Informationsliste   Wert
Video Adapter Eigenschaften   
Gerätebeschreibung   NVIDIA ION
Adapterserie   ION
BIOS Version   Version 62.79.63.0.1
Chiptyp   ION
DAC Typ   Integrated RAMDAC
Treiberdatum   20.02.2011
Treiberversion   8.17.12.7032 - nVIDIA ForceWare 270.32
Treiberanbieter   NVIDIA
Speichergröße   256 MB
   
Installierter Treiber   
nvd3dum   8.17.12.7032 - nVIDIA ForceWare 270.32
nvwgf2um   8.17.12.7032
nvwgf2um   8.17.12.7032
   
Video Adapter Hersteller   
Firmenname   NVIDIA Corporation
Produktinformation   http://www.nvidia.com/page/products.html
Treiberdownload   http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Treiberupdate   http://www.aida64.com/driver-updates
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now I will try x38g again
edit:
x38g is running on GPU now. Report result as soon as ready.

heinz

[_heinz]

What we learn from this:
270.32 is not a WDDM driver and BOINC shows 242MB
The newer WDDM driver will not detected properly by BOINC and does not show correct values of VRAM on any of my systems(ION R3600, and I3 Geforce GT540M)
BOINC on I3 shows:
20.06.2011 22:23:06 |  | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 540M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 962MB, 172 GFLOPS peak)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"AIDA64 Extreme Edition" shows on my I3:
Informationsliste   Wert
Grafikprozessor Eigenschaften   
Grafikkarte   nVIDIA GeForce GT 540M (Medion)
GPU Codename   GF108M
PCI-Geräte   10DE-0DF4 / 17C0-10E2  (Rev A1)
Transistoren   585 Mio.
Fertigungstechnologie   40 nm
Gehäusefläche   114 mm2
Bustyp   PCI Express 2.0 x16 @ x16
Speichergröße   1 GB
GPU Takt (Geometric Domain)   750 MHz
GPU Takt (Shader Domain)   1500 MHz
RAMDAC Takt   400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines   8
Texturen Mapping Einheiten   16
Unified Shaders   96  (v5.0)
DirectX Hardwareunterstützung   DirectX v11
Pixel Füllrate   6000 MPixel/s
Texel Füllrate   12000 MTexel/s
   
Speicherbus-Eigenschaften   
Bustyp   DDR3
Busbreite   128 Bit
Tatsächlicher Takt   450 MHz (DDR)
Effektiver Takt   900 MHz
Bandbreite   14.1 GB/s
   
Auslastung   
Grafikprozessor (GPU)   99%
Speichercontroller   0%
Video Engine   0%
   
nVIDIA ForceWare Clocks   
Standard 2D   Grafikprozessor (GPU): 50 MHz, Shader: 101 MHz, Speicher: 135 MHz
Low-Power 3D   Grafikprozessor (GPU): 202 MHz, Shader: 405 MHz, Speicher: 324 MHz
Performance 3D   Grafikprozessor (GPU): 750 MHz, Shader: 1500 MHz, Speicher: 900 MHz
   
Grafikprozessorhersteller   
Firmenname   NVIDIA Corporation
Produktinformation   http://www.nvidia.com/page/products.html
Treiberdownload   http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Treiberupdate   http://www.aida64.com/driver-updates
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Pepi]

hi Jason,
I installed latest nvidia beta driver on my laptop, 275.50-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-beta
BOINC 6.12.26 shows:
20.06.2011 22:23:06 |  | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 540M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 962MB, 172 GFLOPS peak)

275.33-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql has the same issue.
in general, there must be something wrong in the driver detection of BOINC.

Although,   I can run primegrid.

heinz

On my desktop  MB have GPU also. I use MB GPU for usually work, and GTX 560TI only for crunching. When nothing is attached to 560 TI then I have same message as you: driver version unknown
but 560TI works without problem in SETI.

[_heinz]

Hi Jason,
all 3 wu's are done now on the ION (driver 270.32)
hostid=5510631
resultid=1956143932
resultid=1956143934
resultid=1956143936

Cuda Active: All 15 paranoid early cuFft plans succeeded.

what does it mean ? all can be used ?

woundering about
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
reports:
SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
NOTE: The number of results detected exceeds the storage space allocated.

Flopcounter: 42371081878.117691

Spike count:    30
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

x38g reports:
Multibeam x38g Preview, Cuda 3.20

Legacy setiathome_enhanced V6 mode.
Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.720454

Flopcounter: 10431952929543.820000

Spike count:    2
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  1
Gaussian count: 0
Worker preemptively acknowledging a normal exit.->
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

So no validation will happen for me.

heinz

[Mike]

So far i can see your results looks O.K.
Your winman using fermi app and produces -9 errors.
So the unit will be sent to third host.