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Title: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 05 Dec 2008, 10:53:31 am
This board is an SMF board so it includes a feature where you can enable RSS news feeds from this website.

I believe you can do this from the board admin panel.

Read this about how to do it; http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=25009.0

Should be like this;
Quote
First, make sure you've enabled the feeds:

Admin -> News and Newsletters -> Settings
Check the box next to "Enable XML/RSS News".
The "Maximum post length" value determines how many characters of a post are output in the feeds. The default value (255) is fine for now

This would make it easy for more people to read your news and updates about the opp apps.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 05 Dec 2008, 01:13:58 pm
Thanks for the tip John!  ;D
I'll discuss w/ Admin.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 05 Dec 2008, 06:18:18 pm
Yep, let me know if you need any help!

Not sure what version of SMF forum you have, it might require an update or an extra module added, i don't know.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 21 Mar 2009, 02:32:27 am
I see you guys enabled the rss feeds from your forum, well done!

To complete this properly, you need to do one more thing. To produce an rss feed that might be considered the "News about latest opp apps" from this forum, you need to create one new forum that is specifically for posting your "News items". The only messages posted in the new "News and announcements" forum would be by the people making the opp apps and officially making the announcement.

The reason you need to create a new forum specifically for this is because if you try to take an rss feed from any of the current forums, you get all the general chat mixed into the feed. So as a result, its not really news, its just chat which you can read on the forums anyway.

Current example, with the general chat that can't be removed; http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;op=News;id=3

That example is this forum with all the important sticky news and announcements about the opp apps. But the real news just gets burried.

It would be cool to have rss news about the latest opp apps, it would be great for everyone!

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 21 Mar 2009, 09:12:11 am
I see you guys enabled the rss feeds from your forum, well done!

To complete this properly, you need to do one more thing. To produce an rss feed that might be considered the "News about latest opp apps" from this forum, you need to create one new forum that is specifically for posting your "News items". The only messages posted in the new "News and announcements" forum would be by the people making the opp apps and officially making the announcement.

The reason you need to create a new forum specifically for this is because if you try to take an rss feed from any of the current forums, you get all the general chat mixed into the feed. So as a result, its not really news, its just chat which you can read on the forums anyway.

Current example, with the general chat that can't be removed; http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;op=News;id=3

That example is this forum with all the important sticky news and announcements about the opp apps. But the real news just gets burried.

It would be cool to have rss news about the latest opp apps, it would be great for everyone!

John.

John, I activated RSS feeds in forum admin., but I haven't any indication that it's actually working.
For example, I do not get the RSS icon via Safari or IE browser. 
Are you seeing an RSS feed for this site?
What browser are you using?
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 21 Mar 2009, 11:53:09 pm

John, I activated RSS feeds in forum admin., but I haven't any indication that it's actually working.
For example, I do not get the RSS icon via Safari or IE browser. 
Are you seeing an RSS feed for this site?
What browser are you using?
No, my browser does not detect the rss feeds either, its not going to. SMF designed this mod as an add-on or as an after thought, so its not hard coded as part of your SMF framework.

But the feeds are there, you just have to know how to get the feed. So Gecko, you, as the forum admin have to understand how it works. Then you have to decide if you want people to know that this new "Opp App news and announcements" rss feed are available.

So its up to you to place links where people will see the new rss feed is available, and get a nice rss icon. Get an rss icon here; http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/RSS

This is what you need to do;
1. So first you need to create the new forum that will only be used to post news items about whats happening with the latest opp apps.

2. You should probably move all the current "Stickied" news announcements into the new forum. Then you just have news in that forum.

3. Write a forum description saying that this new forum is only for news, its not for chatting.

4. Then you need to read the SMF announcement message and figure out the URL to use for getting the rss feed for that new news forum. This is the SMF message that explains how it works; http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=25009.0

5. This is an example rss feed from this forum, the general chat forum; http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;op=News;id=3

6. Once you have the new forum and the URL to get the rss feed, then you can place that link on the front page of the website where people will see it.

7. This bit is optional, but not nessary. Just because you add the new link and an rss icon to the front page here does not mean that browsers will detect this automatically. If you want browsers to automatically detect that you have an rss feed from a particular page, you need to edit the template for your website and add the following code in between the <head>  tags of your page;

This code;
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  <link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/EDIT-THIS-FOR-YOUR-FEED-URL" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" />

I think in your case, you would be editing the "index.php" page of your forum and adding the new bit of code there anywhere inside the <head> tags. But as i mentioned, this is just so browsers auto-detect the rss feed.

I will be back to check if you have any questions or need help.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 12:13:56 am
Thanks John!  This is new territory for me & hugely helpful!!
I'll start playing w/ it!  ;D
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 12:20:55 am
Thanks John!  This is new territory for me & hugely helpful!!
I'll start playing w/ it!  ;D
Create the new forum, move all the current news messages in there and i will help you with any questions you have. Once you have the new forum, i will make sure you have the correct rss feed url for the forum.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 12:25:02 am
Thanks John!  This is new territory for me & hugely helpful!!
I'll start playing w/ it!  ;D
Create the new forum, move all the current news messages in there and i will help you with any questions you have. Once you have the new forum, i will make sure you have the correct rss feed url for the forum.

John.

I'll create the new forum & move posts etc. this eve.  Easy enough.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to finish re: RSS feeds.  (need sleep....dozing off).
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: arkayn on 22 Mar 2009, 01:20:50 am
To make it work correctly, you might have to split out each post into it's own thread.

That way there will be a list of the news release instead of it only showing one.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 01:29:31 am
Progress....

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;board=15

EDIT:  Shows the FIRST post in the Topic.  Each release will need to be it's own topic, not all contained w/in 1 thread?  :-\
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 01:40:59 am
I think arkayn is correct, but you might have to play with it just to test it out!

This is what i have so far;

You have 4 forums, all of them have an rss feed. Each of them have a number.

Linux
Windows
Discussion Forum
Optimized Applications Release News

There forum numbers seem to be like this;

Linux - 3
Windows - 12
Discussion Forum - 1
Optimized Applications Release News - 15

So having read the SMF explanation message, i am adding the params for "XML feed", and "rss2" and "recent posts" and "Limit to 15 most recent posts". This gives me the following URL for each forum to get the rss feed from that forum;

Linux - http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=recent;limit=15;board=3

Windows - http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=recent;limit=15;board=12

Discussion Forum - http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=recent;limit=15;board=1

Optimized Applications Release News - http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=recent;limit=15;board=15

Using those url's, i can get and read the rss news from the original 3 forums, they work fine. But i cannot see any news items on forum 15, the new "Optimized Applications Release News " forum?

You might have to do what arkayn suggested and split the forum posts into individual news items. But i would test it first by posting a few test forum posts to see if they appear in the new forum, you can delete them later.

I can't post messages in the new forum so i can't test it. But maybe that is why i can't see the rss news items for that forum also.

You will have to play with it and test the url's i have given you.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 01:47:46 am
But i cannot see any news items on forum 15, the new "Optimized Applications Release News " forum?

John.

I know why.  Will take some more reorganization, but I know "what" & how to fix this.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 01:55:27 am
Try this:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 02:00:42 am
Try this:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15

Gecko,
You done a wonderful job, its working great with that url! :D, well done!

You just need to post news items as new messages when you have a new release. I suppose tomorrow you can try add the rss icon to the front page and the extra bit of code for the browser auto detect if you like!

Looks good!

John.

Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 02:03:33 am
Try this:

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15

Gecko,
You done a wonderful job, its working great with that url! :D, well done!

You just need to post news items as new messages when you have a new release. I suppose tomorrow you can try add the rss icon to the front page and the extra bit of code for the browser auto detect if you like!

Looks good!

John.



Thanks John!!!  Couldn't have done it w/o your help & "step by steps".  ;D

Yes, let's pick-up on the rest of this tomorrow if that's OK.  I would like to complete the remaining tasks as you suggested.
Thanks again & until tomorrow.  :D
Cheers!
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: arkayn on 22 Mar 2009, 08:52:24 am
I got it to work by copying an existing rss feed that I have in my bookmarks and then changing the feed URL to the new one., now I have a list of the last 7 releases.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:26:40 am
John, I added a RSS feed announcement to home page.  Would like to "pretty-up" w/ RSS feed Icon etc.

Let's finish other remaining items this eve.
Can use your help for sure  :).
Thanks!
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:45:26 am
OK, just a quick question Gecko. Can you edit php files? Are you confident enough to edit them? I can give you instructions for where to put the link into your forum <head> tags.

If you are confident enough to edit the php files yourself, you can follow the instructions i give you here. If you are not confident with editing the php files, i can do it for you and email the updated php files to you!

Instructions to install the "Browser auto-detect rss feed" code if you are fimilar with php;

1. Find out what "Theme" you are using for this forum, i'm not sure, i'm not fililar with SMF.

2. When you know the "Theme", go to the directory;
YOUR-FORUM-FILES/Themes/YOUR-THEME/index.template.php

SMF comes with 3 themes, classic, babylon and default, so the directory might be;
YOUR-FORUM-FILES/Themes/default/index.template.php

3. Edit the index.template.php file and find a line of code that is similar to this;
Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>

That line is about line 79 of the index.template.php . Just after that, add the following code;

Quote
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" />

See how you get on with that much!  ;)

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:04:09 am
John, I added a RSS feed announcement to home page.  Would like to "pretty-up" w/ RSS feed Icon etc.

Let's finish other remaining items this eve.
Can use your help for sure  :).
Thanks!
Here are 3 nice rss icons you can use. Copy them to your images folder on this website;

16x16 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_16x16.png)

24x24 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png)

32x32 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_32x32.png)

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:05:42 am
John, I added a RSS feed announcement to home page.  Would like to "pretty-up" w/ RSS feed Icon etc.

Let's finish other remaining items this eve.
Can use your help for sure  :).
Thanks!
Here are 3 nice rss icons you can use. Copy them to your images folder on this website;

16x16 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_16x16.png)

24x24 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png)

32x32 - (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_32x32.png)

John.

Ahhh.....images folder.  That explains my trouble.

Now.....gotta search for the folder location.....
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:34:46 am

Ahhh.....images folder.  That explains my trouble.

Now.....gotta search for the folder location.....

John:  Not having much luck.  Know where I can find the right area on the site to upload these images?  FYI.  I don't have direct access to server directory this site is hosted.  I'd have to be able to upload the image via forum/site admin controls.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 12:52:14 pm
Hmmmm....

I have the rss images hosted for free in photobucket, your welcome to just use them as they are, it won't cost me anything.

The url for the 24x24 rss image is; http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png

So i take it that you don't have access to edit the php files for this forum? If that's the case, then you can't add the browser auto-detect rss feed code.

So then you just need to play around with formatting your announcement message to add the rss image to make the message look fancy. The browser auto-detect is just an optional thing. As long as you always have your nice rss image on the front page, linked to the feed, people will see it and use the feed if they want it.

This is the BB code to use in forum messages to add the rss image linked to your feed. Click reply to this message to see the BB code;

*****************************
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png) (http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15)

****************************

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 02:50:08 pm
This sucks.
The RSS feed announcement I set-up on Home page is done via block comments.

Portal Controls > Block Mgt > Block Contents

From googling/reading I see that in block contents, one can only use block level tags?
Soo...anyone know image specific related tags, or a way to bring-in an image via block tags?

The typical methods that work via posts, aren't working @ block level.  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 04:38:32 pm
FIgured out a work-around : > )
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 05:05:40 pm

3. Edit the index.template.php file and find a line of code that is similar to this;
Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>

That line is about line 79 of the index.template.php . Just after that, add the following code;

Quote
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" />

John.


I actually found this & have access to the index.template.php.

BTW...the rss I designated is "RSS", not RSS 2.0 in the previous set-up.

What is the major difference, or will work for most users?
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: arkayn on 22 Mar 2009, 06:43:25 pm
From what I can tell, it looks like it is working just fine.

Once I changed the FF applications in preferences for web feed to FF instead of it opening in iTunes.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 09:30:09 pm

3. Edit the index.template.php file and find a line of code that is similar to this;
Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>

That line is about line 79 of the index.template.php . Just after that, add the following code;

Quote
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss2;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" />

John.


I actually found this & have access to the index.template.php.

BTW...the rss I designated is "RSS", not RSS 2.0 in the previous set-up.

What is the major difference, or will work for most users?
If you have edited the index.template.php and added the browser auto detect code, i'm not seeing it or my browser is not picking it up in FF or IE!

Also, i don't know what "Block tags" are. But either way, if you are writing the announcement message on the front page in html, you need to add this to the <img> tag;
border="0"

You need border zero to remove the border from the rss image. I see a blue border.

The rss feed is fine.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 09:51:03 pm
Here's the current entry in block contents

<h3><a href="index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15">(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png) RSS Feed for New Optimized Applications Release News[/url] - Receive the latest release notifications as they happen!</h3>

The border="0" needs to fit where?
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 09:52:01 pm
Now for the next thing to improve the rss feed!

If you read the news content of the rss feed, the news is cut very short, the rss software chops the length of each news item to 255 charictors, or about 30 to 40 words. But you can change this in the forum admin panel.

If you read the very start of the SMF explaination message - http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=25009.0 , one of the first things it says;
"The "Maximum post length" value determines how many characters of a post are output in the feeds. The default value is (255)"

So in the admin panel you should change this value to something much higher, maybe 1500 characters or 2000 characters might be better to output the majority of the news announcement to the rss feed. You need to play with how many characters looks best.

The SMF message says you can ajust the setting like this;
Admin -> News and Newsletters -> Settings
The "Maximum post length" value determines how many characters of a post are output in the feeds!

Try change this!

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 09:59:06 pm
Here's the current entry in block contents

<h3><a href="index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15">(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png) RSS Feed for New Optimized Applications Release News[/url] - Receive the latest release notifications as they happen!</h3>

The border="0" needs to fit where?


Add the border zero like this;
img src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png" border="0"

I took these < > off the ends of the image tag so you can see the code.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:00:58 pm

If you have edited the index.template.php and added the browser auto detect code, i'm not seeing it or my browser is not picking it up in FF or IE!

John.

Here's the section of code:

Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>';

   // This is here because Gecko browsers properly support white-space....

If I add this:

Quote
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 1.0" />

Does it go after the semi-colon at the end or before it & the semi-colon closes the statement?

Last question, "title="RSS X".  for RSS is it 1.0 or .92?



Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:05:15 pm

Add the border zero like this;
img src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/rss/Feed_24x24.png" border="0"

John.

Got it.

Blue border should be gone now.  I don't see it anymore.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:10:07 pm

The SMF message says you can ajust the setting like this;
Admin -> News and Newsletters -> Settings
The "Maximum post length" value determines how many characters of a post are output in the feeds!

Try change this!

John.

Easy. Done.  ;D
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:12:30 pm

If you have edited the index.template.php and added the browser auto detect code, i'm not seeing it or my browser is not picking it up in FF or IE!

John.

Here's the section of code:

Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>';

   // This is here because Gecko browsers properly support white-space....

If I add this:

Quote
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 1.0" />

Does it go after the semi-colon at the end or before it & the semi-colon closes the statement?

Last question, "title="RSS X".  for RSS is it 1.0 or .92?





Just after the semi colon, return to the next line, adding in an extra white space line, then paste in the extra bit of code!

Its rss version="0.92"

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:37:11 pm
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Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:45:50 pm
I had a serious pucker-factor moment & thought I seriously screwed-up the forum theme.

Can you please double check this line once more please???
Is that space after .92" supposed to be there?
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:50:48 pm
...

Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 10:55:21 pm
Sorry again, i had another look. This time the code is correct

Find this;
Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>';

Replace it with this;

Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 0.92" />';
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:18:03 pm
John,

Does the board look normal to you?

After the last parsing error, it kicked me to Enigma 2 theme.
It's all I can see.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:19:33 pm
John,

Does the board look normal to you?

After the last parsing error, it kicked me to Enigma 2 theme.
It's all I can see.
Yes, i see the normal black and orange color theme!

Did you try the code in my last message?

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:25:19 pm
John,

Does the board look normal to you?

After the last parsing error, it kicked me to Enigma 2 theme.
It's all I can see.
Yes, i see the normal black and orange color theme!

Did you try the code in my last message?

John.

Didn't try your code in last msg.  I'm still trying to sort out why I can't view normal theme after the last error.
Seems to only affect what I see when I'm logged-in.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:28:20 pm
Try the new code in my last code message and refresh your browser!

You might have to clear your browser cache

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:35:25 pm
Is the apostophe at the end '</title> supposed to be gone?
Previously, it looked like '</title>'
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:37:23 pm
Is the apostophe at the end '</title> supposed to be gone?
Previously, it looked like '</title>'

Yes, that is the new correction i made. Copy exactly what you see. I moved the apostrify.

Find this;
Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>';

Replace it with this;

Quote
<title>', $context['page_title'], '</title>
<link href="http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 0.92" />';
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:50:17 pm
I can't see the board layout normally & can't edit the section as the layout hides it.  Clearing my browser doesn't fix it.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 22 Mar 2009, 11:56:16 pm
I can't see the board layout normally & can't edit the section as the layout hides it.  Clearing my browser doesn't fix it.
The board looks perfect to me, i have not seen any change in the way the board looks.

Am i correct in saying that the board theme is called "lunatics"?

If that is the case, make sure you are editing the file;
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/Themes/lunatics/index.template.php

Also, i can't find anywhere in my profile to select a different theme. I seem to get the "lunatics" black and orange theme and i can't change it. But it looks fine to me.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:00:12 am
Don't understand.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:06:17 am
Don't understand.

1. Are you editing the file - Themes/lunatics/index.template.php . Is the theme called "Lunatics"?

2. How do i change the theme i see? Maybe only an admin can do this?

3. Are you still seeing some kind of fault?

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:12:30 am
Don't understand.

1. Are you editing the file - Themes/lunatics/index.template.php . Is the theme called "Lunatics"?

2. How do i change the theme i see? Maybe only an admin can do this?

3. Are you still seeing some kind of fault?

John.
It seems I was only editing the Lunatics theme for MY account.  There's a separate setting to make for ALL users.  Thank goodness.
You last code change seems to work.  No parse errors.

However....after seeing what has happened just w/ my own setting, I'm not going to mess w/ something that could cause issue w/ the whole board.
Will defer that to server admin. 
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:24:43 am
Everything is fully working now! I am auto detecting the correct rss feed on every page of this website! Everything looks perfect!

I think we are finished!

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko-R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:31:11 am
Everything is fully working now! I am auto detecting the correct rss feed on every page of this website! Everything looks perfect!

I think we are finished!

John.

Good.  ;D  Glad to hear there was a positive outcome!  John:  Thanks for your guiding me through this!
I'm excited for this excellent feature & better/quicker communication that it will permit.   ;D

Not without sacrifice, however.  I'm having to redo my account since I can't get past the original parsing error.  It won't refresh.
Oh well.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:38:08 am
Everything is fully working now! I am auto detecting the correct rss feed on every page of this website! Everything looks perfect!

I think we are finished!

John.

Good.  ;D  Glad to hear there was a positive outcome!  John:  Thanks for your guiding me through this!
I'm excited for this excellent feature & better/quicker communication that it will permit.   ;D

Not without sacrifice, however.  I'm having to redo my account since I can't get past the original parsing error.  It won't refresh.
Oh well.
Well everything about the website theme looks 100% to me, i don't see any faults. You could try re-trace your steps and see if there is some other theme file you edited that still has the faulty code. You could also shut down your browser, clear your cache and delete your browsing history to give you a fresh start.

But everything looks great!, well done Gecko. Don't forget to advertise your new opp app rss feed in your messages you post. Include the little rss icon to make the messages look good!. its a very cool feature, I'm very pleased with the end result!

delete your browser history and clear your cache!

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko-R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:45:03 am

delete your browser history and clear your cache!

John.

Oh...did all that as a "1st" step after getting the error.
Doesn't solve the problem.
Maybe it will sort itself out, but otherwise...this work-around will be fine.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:50:33 am

delete your browser history and clear your cache!

John.

Oh...did all that as a "1st" step after getting the error.
Doesn't solve the problem.
Maybe it will sort itself out, but otherwise...this work-around will be fine.

Gecko i think maybe you can see this error because you have the ability to change the theme for this forum just for your account. So i think you still have the faulty code in the theme that you are seeing. I can't see or even select that other theme, so i don't see the error. If that is the case, you need to find the other index.template.php file you were editing and replace the code with the new code.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko-R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 12:54:52 am

delete your browser history and clear your cache!

John.

Oh...did all that as a "1st" step after getting the error.
Doesn't solve the problem.
Maybe it will sort itself out, but otherwise...this work-around will be fine.

Gecko i think maybe you can see this error because you have the ability to change the theme for this forum just for your account. So i think you still have the faulty code in the theme that you are seeing. I can't see or even select that other theme, so i don't see the error. If that is the case, you need to find the other index.template.php file you were editing and replace the code with the new code.

John.

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll take a peek tomorrow, but I'm not too worried bout' it if I can't sort it  ;).
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 01:01:08 am
Sure!

Remember that if this forum has 3 or 4 themes, and forum moderators and forum admins have selected a different theme to view this forum, they won't see the rss browser auto-detect feature until they log out and see the "Lunatics" default theme. For everybody to see the browser auto-detect thing, you would have to add the new code to the index.template.php file for each theme.

Anyway everything looks good, its a cool feature and i'm glad we got it working.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Jason G on 23 Mar 2009, 01:43:08 am
Ooooh!, comes up in Snarfer good  ;)  Looks like the votes don't save, but my guess is that's a snarfer thing right?

Only thing is I guess this makes editing/updating older entries technique out for updates  :(


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Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko-R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 08:39:53 am
Sure!

Remember that if this forum has 3 or 4 themes, and forum moderators and forum admins have selected a different theme to view this forum, they won't see the rss browser auto-detect feature until they log out and see the "Lunatics" default theme. For everybody to see the browser auto-detect thing, you would have to add the new code to the index.template.php file for each theme.

Anyway everything looks good, its a cool feature and i'm glad we got it working.

John.

You're really close there!  There's 5 themes, but everyone is actually using the Lunatics theme.  No viewers of the others.
The only original Admin here that helped dev. this site has been awol for almost 2 years.
The remaining admin is the server host, but didn't build this site.  I rather got the job since I was already here & had a broom.
Sweeping the reactor room vs. changing how the reactor runs are slightly different things..... :D
I don't want to be the night watchman that causes a meltdown  :D via "ohhh....that red button looks cool, let's see what THAT does...."

Would be nice to have an actual site admin again that can truly develop the site etc.
Problem is everything that built the site (w/exception to index template) is in protected files.
I can't say the need is critical, just a nice to have.
Current environment works fine and is the best yet.  :)

You obviously know your way around the nooks & crannies of SMF.
What kind of background you have???
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko-R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 08:57:53 am
Ooooh!, comes up in Snarfer good  ;)  Looks like the votes don't save, but my guess is that's a snarfer thing right?

Only thing is I guess this makes editing/updating older entries technique out for updates  :(


Actually...the way I post the the updates will continue to work fine.
Each update, while essentially as modified version of a previous release post (why re-invent the wheel each time  ;) ), is still a "new" post and news item.  So....the most recent item on RSS will always be the latest & newest.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Jason G on 23 Mar 2009, 12:43:07 pm
Actually...the way I post the the updates will continue to work fine.
Each update, while essentially as modified version of a previous release post (why re-invent the wheel each time  ;) ), is still a "new" post and news item.  So....the most recent item on RSS will always be the latest & newest.

Ahh,  Gotcha  :D
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 23 Mar 2009, 05:19:51 pm

Would be nice to have an actual site admin again that can truly develop the site etc.
Problem is everything that built the site (w/exception to index template) is in protected files.
I can't say the need is critical, just a nice to have.
Current environment works fine and is the best yet.  :)

You obviously know your way around the nooks & crannies of SMF.
What kind of background you have???
I have a fleet of BOINC related websites and forums, but the forums all use phpbb. But to be honest, the software for SMF and phpbb is very similar, they both do the same thing. I'm no expert but i can find my way around most problems.

Your new rss news feed is a very cool feature, i think we have everything working on it.

I have no problem helping you if there are other things you want to do with this website, it would be my pleasure to help make this website even more cool. This website is the backbone of SETI@home optimized applications and it has been for a very long time. The information on this website is very valuable, and this website should be minded and treasured.

What do you want to do with this site?
Throw a few idea's at me!
Throw a few questions if there is stuff you have ignored because you previously did not have the tech knowledge to solve the issues.

New themes maybe?, new extensions? new add-ons and cool new features? Better information? Better news about opp apps? Better presentation of the information? have you seen something on another website that you would like to see on this website?

I will help you in any way i can.

John.
Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: Gecko_R7 on 23 Mar 2009, 06:25:06 pm

What do you want to do with this site?
Throw a few idea's at me!
Throw a few questions if there is stuff you have ignored because you previously did not have the tech knowledge to solve the issues.

New themes maybe?, new extensions? new add-ons and cool new features? Better information? Better news about opp apps? Better presentation of the information? have you seen something on another website that you would like to see on this website?

I will help you in any way i can.

John.

Thanks John!  I appreciate your offer and might take you up on it in future.  Actually...for now, pretty happy w/ everything.  The RSS feed was  a particular efficiency that was very annoying "not to provide".
There's  1 area on the main page, the right-hand box where you see downloads & application statistics.
I can't find this anywhere in the forum controls.  It might be custom code.  I only have access to Index & layout templates.
It would be nice to edit & link to our downloads categories.

However, after my experience last night....I'm not ready to jump into template stuff again.  ;)
While it would be nice to have changed, I don't have the skill set to do this.
Might be able to put you in contact w/ server admin. if you & he want to discuss.

Thanks again!
Gecko


Title: Re: Can you enable your RSS feed?
Post by: John37309 on 24 Mar 2009, 02:01:49 am
Gecko,
To have a shot at offering a solution to edit & link to your downloads categories, i need to know what modules or extensions you are using with this forum.

In your admin panel, click "Packages" and give me a list of the packages you have installed on this forum. And the version number if its listed.

If i know what software you are using, i might be able to offer a solution.

John.