Seti@Home optimized science apps and information
Optimized Seti@Home apps => Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Simon on 16 Feb 2007, 05:14:21 pm
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Hi Folks,
I've been thinking about this a while, but really can't come up with a decision.
So, instead I decided to ask you.
What's your opinion on Google AdSense advertisements displayed on this site to support SETI@Home?
Please cast your vote in the poll and help me make up my mind. I'd also like to hear your opinion in more detail - just click "reply".
Thanks for your participation,
Simon.
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My take is that whatever can be done to keep the project alive should be done, so I voted for the ads. I'm quite willing to see them and may even follow links if Google does a decent job of figuring out what else might interest visitors here.
Joe
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While I voted for bad idea I could also have voted for I'd rather donate.
AdSense ads may be useful for income but I don't think I've ever clicked one and they make mess of the page.
If I'm looking to puchase something, I have a list of known and trusted suppliers.
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No one likes to be bombarded by a bunch of ads but we now live in desperate SaH times. I would support anything that helps our favorite hobby. You can always stop supporting the ads at later date when we're out of the woods . . .
Brock
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Simon,
I think you know my stance...(Good idea, I'm all for it.) In fact I sent you a PM about this topic a few weeks ago.
For those that are skeptics...go to http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/index.php (http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/index.php), they do a very good job of making the the ads look good. Since Google will pay you for both # of clicks AND number of views based on the advertiser's configuration if it is done tastefully I think it is a good idea.
As for me...I click the links whenever I see something of interest....The nice part about Google Adsense is that the ads in each THREAD will be different (and relevant) based on the WORDS on the page.
-citroja
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Works for me.
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Do I even need to mention my stance on the issue? :D ;)
BoB
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Why not!?!
There are ads on nearly every site - if you donīt like you donīt look at it. ;D
mic.
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Do I even need to mention my stance on the issue? :D ;)
BoB
Umm...i am can't remember exactly...can you remind me :)
BTW - did you ever get things fixed with Google?
-citroja
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Since Google will pay you for both # of clicks AND number of views based on the advertiser's configuration if it is done tastefully I think it is a good idea.
Will then Google also get the green ((http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/star.gif)) star? ;D
(Probably not without telling it's S@H account number ;))
Peter
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If it will help then go for it.
Pete
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Do I even need to mention my stance on the issue? :D ;)
BoB
Umm...i am can't remember exactly...can you remind me :)
BTW - did you ever get things fixed with Google?
-citroja
Not yet :( :'(
Im going to try one last appeal tonight... If that dont work... I dont know what will.
BoB
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I voted for Yes because you have nothing to loose if use Adsense (it is free service), but I think revenue on this way will not be important from lunatics.at without good traffic (at least 100 visitors/day) and seo (I see about 3000 pages only indexed at google/yahoo/msn for lunatics.at). Adsense is working for me with good enough results in money only on groups of sites having over 10000 pages/each and over 500 visitors/day. If you can add Ansense on each setiathome.berkeley.edu page, this may be the Key - there is over 300000 pages indexed and I think a lot of visitors. Anyway, do this. Also, you can take into consideration Yahoo! Publisher - there is more money for less click - if you are in US.
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Do I even need to mention my stance on the issue? :D ;)
BoB
Umm...i am can't remember exactly...can you remind me :)
BTW - did you ever get things fixed with Google?
-citroja
Not yet :( :'(
Im going to try one last appeal tonight... If that dont work... I dont know what will.
BoB
Will you be able to open a new acct with a different email address/paypal acct? or do they track name and other info?
I would assume that Google checks IP addresses, and you can tell them that it was a random person that was doing the clicking....who knows.
Good luck let me know how things turn out.
-citroja
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Will you be able to open a new acct with a different email address/paypal acct? or do they track name and other info?
I would assume that Google checks IP addresses, and you can tell them that it was a random person that was doing the clicking....who knows.
Good luck let me know how things turn out.
-citroja
Already tried creating another account.... It was denied.
BoB
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I voted for Yes because you have nothing to loose if use Adsense (it is free service), but I think revenue on this way will not be important from lunatics.at without good traffic (at least 100 visitors/day) and seo (I see about 3000 pages only indexed at google/yahoo/msn for lunatics.at). Adsense is working for me with good enough results in money only on groups of sites having over 10000 pages/each and over 500 visitors/day. If you can add Ansense on each setiathome.berkeley.edu page, this may be the Key - there is over 300000 pages indexed and I think a lot of visitors. Anyway, do this. Also, you can take into consideration Yahoo! Publisher - there is more money for less click - if you are in US.
Hi,
while Google may not have as many pages indexed here, we have way over 500 visitors/day on average, getting close to and breaking 1000 lately.
Site averages - 600-800 unique visitors/day, 3000-6000 page impressions/day, 35-50K hits/day.
So it's not that far off IMO ;)
Also, should I integrate ads, they will be visible on every page, because they'll most likely be somewhere in the header.
In any case, it might not be GoogleAds; I'm currently researching possibilities on that front.
Regards,
Simon.
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Simon,
Do you host your own page? or does someone else host it? Because if someone else hosts it you might have to look at certain restriction/fees that may apply. Just something to look into.
-citroja
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If it helps keep this project alive, I'll click on the advertisements everytime I return.
Hey, its a fact of life, we all need to make a money to pay the bills.
Go for it.
Tom
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citroja,
lunatics.at is kindly hosted by "The Knights who say Ni!" on the server www.kwsn.net and stats.kwsn.net (http://stats.kwsn.net) and www.kwsnforum.com run on.
I've run it by the site admins, they didn't have any problems with it. In fact, they gave me helpful info on alternatives to Google Ads.
So that angle should be covered.
Regards,
Simon.
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citroja,
lunatics.at is kindly hosted by "The Knights who say Ni!" on the server www.kwsn.net and stats.kwsn.net (http://stats.kwsn.net) and www.kwsnforum.com run on.
I've run it by the site admins, they didn't have any problems with it. In fact, they gave me helpful info on alternatives to Google Ads.
So that angle should be covered.
Regards,
Simon.
Good to know, I am all for anything that helps. I also didn't want you to have to deal with any legal issues......it wouldn't be worth it in the long run if you had to.
just curious what are the alternatives I run admin on some other sites so it might be useful...you can PM if want.
-citroja
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Simon,
I also would like to hear some alternatives for my pages.,
I would also like to hear your thoughts on using the same account for the both of us.
(PM or gmail - popandbob at gmail.com)
Thanks,
BoB
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Pop,
as far as having a shared account goes, I'd rather not. Check your private messages.
Regards,
Simon.
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Ok fair enough... I just thought it may help having only one account insted of 2.
Thanks for the reply simon!
BoB
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Well,
seems the results of the poll are pretty clear, even if maybe not 100% representative.
So, I'll be figuring out a way of integrating ads into the site template, and keeping them as non-obtrusive as possible.
Regards,
Simon.
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If it helps keep this project alive, I'll click on the advertisements everytime I return.
Hey, its a fact of life, we all need to make a money to pay the bills.
Go for it.
Tom
Good intention, but clicks on this way not recommended by Google Adsense program policies. Be carefull if do that.
On the other hand: good if 800 unique visitors per day, but all may be the same visitors. Clicks better if from new visitors. Some forums have not expected earnings because no new members daily.
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Thanks for your input, nastasache.
You're right, of course, unique visitors help a lot (and most if they don't visit every day). Still, since we're offering downloads, many different people come by here; I'm not expecting huge revenue out of this, but every little bit helps.
Regards,
Simon.
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I've noticed that PrimeGrid's Donation history (http://www.primegrid.com/?donation_history) page lists their Google AdSense earnings. No idea how frequently used their message boards are, there are approx. 6000 participants. Could it be comparable to lunatics or is lunatics expected to be much better on this?
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I have no real basis for comparison; right now I'm in the process of registering with one or more advertisers.
Will let you know what develops, I'll have a preview before it goes live.
Regards,
Simon.
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Great idea! Advertising drives the money that drive the world, why not the universe?
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go for iT
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yeah seriously, why not?
I mean, it's not like the money comes out of thin air. There ARE ads on practically every site. This one is definitely a non-profit organization to support a really good cause that I believe in so much that I actually own 5 computers that crunch Seti either full-time or while idle. Don't like them? Don't look! Frankly, I'd much rather click them and help the cause even further.
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I noticed on a forum I'm been following, Not sure if good Etiquette to post it but can PM the address if you haven't already seen it if you'd like?
Anyway seem part of their Google 'AdSense' is to have a Google web search bar and the last post in thread is maintained as a Google AdSense post. The forum I've seen it in doesn't have anything in the 'post' but just advertises the post as from Google AdSense - but that could be my adblocking. I'd set my adblocking to ignore and allow the ads on this site specifically to help the cause.
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I noticed on a forum I'm been following, Not sure if good Etiquette to post it but can PM the address if you haven't already seen it if you'd like?
Anyway seem part of their Google 'AdSense' is to have a Google web search bar and the last post in thread is maintained as a Google AdSense post. The forum I've seen it in doesn't have anything in the 'post' but just advertises the post as from Google AdSense - but that could be my adblocking. I'd set my adblocking to ignore and allow the ads on this site specifically to help the cause.
I think that you are right about the search bar increasing revenue. Infact, if i am on a site that has a search bar built in I tend to use that bar right from where I am instead of going to the google site.
-citroja
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I noticed on a forum I'm been following, Not sure if good Etiquette to post it but can PM the address if you haven't already seen it if you'd like?
Anyway seem part of their Google 'AdSense' is to have a Google web search bar and the last post in thread is maintained as a Google AdSense post. The forum I've seen it in doesn't have anything in the 'post' but just advertises the post as from Google AdSense - but that could be my adblocking. I'd set my adblocking to ignore and allow the ads on this site specifically to help the cause.
I think that you are right about the search bar increasing revenue. Infact, if i am on a site that has a search bar built in I tend to use that bar right from where I am instead of going to the google site.
-citroja
yea exactly. That and the last post in a thread is an adscene post.
Just pointing out some ways it's been done.
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Make it So ...
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The ad agency I applied with needs a tax form from me, which has to be snail-mailed. It's still in transit, it seems.
As soon as this is taken care of, we will get underway.
HTH,
Simon.
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A quick nudge to get an update ;)