Seti@Home optimized science apps and information
Optimized Seti@Home apps => Windows => Topic started by: Simon on 02 Jul 2006, 10:42:04 pm
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Hi everyone,
GREAT NEWS!
With the help of Pam Heinze (http://lunatics.at/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=Pam+Heinze), Mr A. Nonymous and Kerry Lawson, I have managed to raise all the funds necessary to buy a license for the necessary Windows development tools.
This means that there will be publicly released optimized apps available for everyone again. Linux, Windows, OS X (http://tbp.berkeley.edu/~alexkan/seti/) - next up is FreeBSD, as the Intel tools should work there too (thanks Tetsuji!).
NI!
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Yeah, good news.. compiling myself make me a headache :/ I got a couple of errors like error C2664 (VC 2005)
Jeeez... nice to hear it :)
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Simon - Congrats!
After searching for ages for a compiled windows client for my AMD Athlon64 / Opteron machines, I gave up and started downloading the dev tools. I have just finished getting all the intel trials plus Visual Studio .NET 2003 (msdn download), and was preparing myself to have a serious techie moment compiling your source (it's been a good 6 years since I was a Delphi developer)... And now you announce the possibility of a public release... ;o))))
If you work in london - let me know, a night of beer awaits you! ;o)
Just one question.... when??? ;o))))
Seriously, thanks for all your amazing work and dedication!!! It's people like you, Crunch3r and Tetsuji that make this project REALLY interesting and fun!
Cheers, Swissnic.
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Heh, sounds like fun :)
I live in Salzburg, Austria, but RyanAir or the like is cheap and cheerful...
And, it's not a possibility, it's a certainty. Just a matter of taking the time to test stuff thoroughly before release. I just bought the licenses today.
T'won't be long!
Regards,
Simon.
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Please realease it as soon as possible :) Some of us are waiting for it :)
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I'm aware of this ;)
Still waiting for the email from Intel with my license files...
It definitely won't be today or tomorrow. I have to test things thoroughly before I release them. But it will definitely be this week ;D
Regards,
Simon.
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I can test your Win binaries on variety of hardware (P3 Tualatin, various P4, P4/Xeon, AMD Opteron). If you need some help there, just shout at me ;)
BTW, if you happen to get some 300 km towards south (Slovenia), you've got a beer (or 20 ;D).
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Lol :)
I might just take you guys up on your offers, you know. I was planning to visit a friend in Portoroz this summer anyway, and that's in Slovenia (barely, but it is - you can see Croatia from the porch).
Really not far at all, and very beautiful. I miss the smell of pinias.
Cheers and thanks for all the good vibes!
Simon.
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I might just take you guys up on your offers, you know. I was planning to visit a friend in Portoroz this summer anyway, and that's in Slovenia (barely, but it is - you can see Croatia from the porch).
Well, when you get down here, drop me a note ... you'll find my e-mail address somewhere in my registration data. I'm sure you can get it even though it's not visible to the public. ;)
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Well,
it took two days for Intel to wake up from the July 4th festivities (Independence Day), but now they finally sent me the licenses ;D
Just downloading the commercial packages now. Expect Windows optimized clients to be released soon.
Regards,
Simon.
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It's the best news I've read since my year-end graduates xD
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Hi everyone,
GREAT NEWS!
With the help of Pam Heinze (http://lunatics.at/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=Pam+Heinze), Mr A. Nonymous and Kerry Lawson, I have managed to raise all the funds necessary to buy a license for the necessary Windows development tools.
This means that there will be publicly released optimized apps available for everyone again. Linux, Windows, OS X (http://tbp.berkeley.edu/~alexkan/seti/) - next up is FreeBSD, as the Intel tools should work there too (thanks Tetsuji!).
NI!
Great News, if you are looking fpr some testers....
Regards from Germany NRW
Sir Ulli
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Hm,
hab zwar schon einige, aber einer mehr geht noch ;)
Einfach mal die Seite neu laden, Du solltest ein Extra-Board sehen.
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Hm,
hab zwar schon einige, aber einer mehr geht noch ;)
Einfach mal die Seite neu laden, Du solltest ein Extra-Board sehen.
hi auch noch in Deutsch
aber ich sehe nix neues :)
regards from Germany
Sir Ulli
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Genau schauen :) Da ist jetzt im Forum-Index ein neues Board. Einfach auf "Forums" klicken links!
Oder auf "Home" und dann die erste Nachricht lesen - geht auch.
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Genau schauen :) Da ist jetzt im Forum-Index ein neues Board. Einfach auf "Forums" klicken links!
Oder auf "Home" und dann die erste Nachricht lesen - geht auch.
got it....
war aber nicht so einfach
zur Info
wieso kannst du so gut Deutsch..
regards from Germany
sir Ulli
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Na weil ich aus Österreich bin! Kann halt auch gut Englisch...und bissel Französisch.
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Na weil ich aus Österreich bin! Kann halt auch gut Englisch...und bissel Französisch.
ah that is nice, but i dont find the Instruktions
(click on xx comments if you're on the home page).
give a link Please
it is too late i think....and too many Drinks at this Day
Greetings from Germany NRW
Sir Ulli
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Na geh bitte :)
Okay, since anyone without access will get "access refused" anyway...
Here's a link (http://lunatics.at/index.php/topic,13.msg89.html#msg89).
Have fun :)
Simon.
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Chyba nie zdajecie sobie sprawy, ze Polacy tutaj także wchodzą :P I mogą nie zrozumieć :P Więc czasami moglibyście cos skrobnąć po Polsku :P
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Feel like a kid waiting for a new toy...
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waiting is reallyhard for me as well :)
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Feel like a kid waiting for a new toy...
Yeah i know, it feels like christmas eve and simon is santa. :P
Simon, I think that you shouldnt eat,sleep or go to the loo; but instead stay at your pc until you have completed the optimized clients !!! ;D
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*snooze*yawn*
Wha? Who said that?
I tried, MacBeth ;)
After 46 hours my body said "no" though...not much longer to wait now.
Regards,
Simon.
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*snooze*yawn*
Wha? Who said that?
I tried, hiamps ;)
After 46 hours my body said "no" though...not much longer to wait now.
Regards,
Simon.
My hero, Once the optimized clients are available i shall slaughter 20.43 virgins in your honour :P
Good work, its good that theres people like yourself out there that are dedicated enuff to help make seti@home better for its community. ;D
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Still trying to figure these boards out...I posted to you but not sure where it ended up...Guess we all better just be patiant as we don't want to stress test Simon, we need him rested and working...LOL
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We've entered the final test phase with the Windows optimized clients - a release is imminent.
The release will probably happen within the next few hours.
Regards,
Simon.
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I'm sure this'll seem like a strange idea but maybe when things have settled down with the optimized apps and your sure they're all safe in live boinc and your trafic has settled a bit :) You could maybe create optimized apps compiled with graphics. Like I say seems silly to put graphics in with the optimized but some people might like to have a little extra speed plus the graphics for their screeensaver?
I don't know how much affect that would have on performance, think I remember you saying something like 10%, and if it would negate any speed gained from optimization. Also don't know if anyone would want that.
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A project for the future :)
I agree that should be an option, and Josef said it actually adds about 1% to the speed when you're running via BOINC and not standalone (and not activating graphics).
Regards,
Simon.
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I notice a couple of people have had a little trouble with the cpu extensions (mmx-sse ect). Some even say cpuZ has got it wrong and told them their machine would run a version it then wouldn't.
Maybe You could modify your pretest benchmark package with one of the very short WUs and then people could run that -if in any doubt- and get a clear answer which apps will run ok on their system?.
Or just add a small copy of the benchmark for the specific app download in with the download so people can test that app on their system before installing it? Just to check for themselves. With just that app bieng tested and a short unit it probly only take 5-10min? I think thats sort of what your asking people anyway.
Not sure if its all really necissary
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Would the option in 'c/c++ - optimization - intel specific' - require intel processor extensions, stop it from running the app if can't run the extension version? It can be set to xK xN xP xB. Says it will do a run-time check for compatable processors.
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Hm, not quite -
the docu I read said this: When you use the /QaxX options instead of the /QxX ones, you can use more than one optimization level. If you put more than one /QxX, only the highest supported level you enter (if you add P, it'll do SSE3) will be used.
So you can do /QaxKWNBP but not /QxKWNBP because it will use only P in the last example (or at least, that's how I read it).
The /QaxX options do make the binary slower, though. Next version I'll have a bit more time to test, maybe I'll even manage to make a super-binary that runs quickly everywhere. Doubt it though :)
Regards,
Simon.
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I meant if you go into c/c++ -then- \optimization -then- scrool down there a section called 'intel specific'. In there theres an option to select "require intel processor extensions" (2 up from the parralelization you pointed out to me before) and, I'm probly missunderstanding this, it sugests that selecting for example; SSE2 then the app you've compiled will do a runtime test to check the cpu is compatable. :-\ Probly slow it down though.
I've probly misunderstood that and it actually means checks your machine can handle it before compiling it. I'd have tested it myself out of interest but both my machines go all the way upto SSE3
Anyway you've got enough on your plate to deal with already. No need for all that rubish i'm going on about. :P
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Sorry, to clarify:
"Require Intel extensions" is /QxK etc.
"Use Intel extensions" is /QaxK etc.
That's the two settings that are right below each other, and I'm thinking those are what you mean.
You can combine more than one "Use" setting by adding it to the command line of the compiler, but AFAIK you cannot use more than one "Require" setting.
I did not select them in the menu, instead I added the relevant call to the command line.
HTH,
Simon.
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Yea that's that one I meant. Didn't mean to combine them though. Sorry about the confusion there, I worded those posts badly.
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Hey There Simon,
Many thanks for all the hard work on the optimized apps. You mentioned a while back about
freebsd versions. Any news on that? I have a couple of freebsd systems that would I would just love to throw an optized seti cruncher at.
Cheers,
L.