Seti@Home optimized science apps and information
Optimized Seti@Home apps => Discussion Forum => Topic started by: msattler on 17 Jul 2009, 04:26:04 am
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9 years gone.......
Don't know where I am gonna end up with Seti............
The EVGA card's gotta go back on RMA, 'cuz they don't have any other answers as to whether there is a driver problem or 'maybe' a problem with the card........
Such has been my lot in life lately.
The Setimods have given me 'the extended FU' ban.......so I won't be able to discuss anything there for a couple of more weeks.............
And every day I get a little older and a little more tired of the BS.
After spending.....and this is a rather conservative estimate........$30,000.00 on Seti.......between toys to run it and the power to make it go......I am starting to falter in my enthusiasm.
I am now the #29 contributor in the world to the Seti project.......in terms of work done.
Wow.......that means a hell of a lot to me.........but maybe not so much to those who should care.
Maybe I am too proud of it.......some say users like me are just in it for the credits. Well, FU too.......
What do you think got sooooooo many people involved and crunching in the first place?
Yes!!! I do it for the frickin' science!! And have proclaimed so many times.......
But there has to be a point, at least in my view, where credit has to be given where due.
And I have received nothing but grief from the Setimods...........my language at times has been crude......but they could just delete the offending posts and move on instead of engaging me in argument. And then banning my ass for weeks on end.
Sorry if I tweaked some feathers here........
But the Seti forums are closed to me now.
If things do not change soon.
I am gonna have to completely reevaluate what I am doing, who I have been, and what I have wasted my life on for the last 9 years.
Sorry for the rant, but I had to tell SOMEBODY.....
Thanks for listening.........or not.
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Mark, I moved this post to Discussion Forum ;)
You've always been known for your passion and dedication. ANYONE that has crunched w/ you knows this much.
Passion is a double-edged sword however.
Yours is for the science and the personal accomplishment/challenge of "how much" of an impact can you make in your own way.
Not much different than the motivation of most current (& past) developers too. :)
Seti is a self-motivating project in that HOPE & belief has to drive us more than the precedent of continuing success (like finding Primes).
10 years of searching "improvements" is a bit less emotionally tangible than a data-base of "definitive" non-natural & repeating signals for the effort. ;)
The project is also quite different than in 99' and IMO has a much-smaller "public face" and is far less interactive w/ user-base.
It's much more difficult for a Vol cruncher to "feel" a part-of and valued in the project today but this is more reflective of the current challenges and where the project actually is today.
We all know that Seti is just trying to continue operating w/ the minimal resources it has & a "shoe-string" budget would actually be an improvement over the continued financial challenges it faces. It's therefore not difficult for me to understand that Berkeley's passion must be focussed on the science and operational priorities to maximize their paltry resources.
I believe there is ALOT of passion re: Seti, but passions are different between the project and the Vol cruncher base.
WHile the combined team of Project and Volunteers is working towards a goal, the motivations that drive us are different and not always easily understood, recognized or completely appreciated by folks on both sides of the coin.
Mark, there are only so many roles a Vol cruncher can fulfill. Not all roles are available to everyone, like coding/programming or having a Top 10 Power-Cruncher or Farm of hosts. Some Mod boards, some "help" folks as constant northern stars to Noobs. Some are just happy & content to hook-up their 5 year old P4 and contribute what they can. ;) You've been able to participate in a variety of ways & roles and on a larger scale. :)
In the end, you kinda have to determine the best way you think you can fit that keeps the hobby fun for you.
If it's not fun any more, than why do it? Life is too short. ;)
Maybe there are other projects that might get your motor revved-up more w/ a break from Seti for a bit? :-\
You can take or leave my comments. Only trying to help. :)
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No problem, my friend.
I will keep searching.
The skies, and my soul, for the answers.
If my crunchers all go dark, it won't take but a few weeks or months for everybody to forget who 'he' was......
My successes, and my failures, will soon be forgotten.
I once thought I could make a difference.......
Now I have been banned on every forum from here to the Milky Way for speaking my mind. Not much of a thing to be remembered by.
Build fire trucks each night, then come home and tend to the rigs......don't get much sleep.
Drink too much on the weekends, cry a lot.
Love my kitties. Pay the bills. And go back to bed.
Restart cycle.
9 years.
It's been a long 9 years.
It makes me a bit sad to see what has become of 'my' Seti project.
I know they are strapped for resources.......both in terms of hardware and the people to manage it.
But it seems sometimes that they mismanage the resources they have.
I just took my hand at a Cuda installation.........and I see why it has been such a disaster.
The damned VLARkill should have been outlawed from the get-go. You crunch what you are given, and that's that. If you don't like the way it works, tough luck. My rig is running that way for a short while now, because I have technical problems getting the card to run with the current drivers, and is in an experimental stage.........
But the card is getting yanked to RMA back to EVGA, and will not continue in that mode.
VLARkill is cherry picking, pure and simple.......
Unless it can automatically return the work within the host to the CPU and not send it back to Seti for some other 'sucker' to crunch, it bites the big one. And only contributes to current Seti woes.
If I get the card back and can bring it back up without trashing the work that Seti sends me, I will continue with it. Otherwise, it goes into the trash bin.
As usual, these are my 'not so humble' opinions.....
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Mark.............
I have crunched along side you on Seti for many years now. I consider your renting out your farm to the highest bidder your most creative and best contribution to date. It shows dedication and commitment to the project that certainly goes unrewarded by the people at Berkeley. No other person has even offered the same deal up for bid.
I too have been tireing lately of the lack of resources at Berkeley, and I cannot dodge the feeling that it will never improve. The inability of the project to get even 1% of the crunchers to donate financially is especially dissapointing to me.
As for me, I am running down my cache and will be going on a vacation Monday. It is doubtful that I will be able to upload the work even after it is finished crunching. During my 10 days I will evaluate what SETI gives to me in return for my commitment to SETI and whether I should continue.
I suspect that I will continue on mainly because of the developers here at Lunatics. These guy's here work hard to make our SETI experience a more meaningful and enjoyable one. If you are looking to Berkeley for justification to crunch SETI you are looking in the wrong place!
Just my 2 cents worth for you...............
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Let's not give up just yet....................
But when a project cannot solidly service the contributors it has, and then sends out mass emails begging for folks to 'come back' to the project........ya gotta wonder.........what are they thinking?
Get yer f'ing ducks in a row.......and THEN ask for more crunchers......sheeesh.
My persistence usually outlasts my anger..........so I suspect I shall be around until the last dog is hung.
But that does not stop me from wishing that things could be other than what they are now.
My rigs all have Seti work currently.....even the Cuda-bastardised one.
Some time this weekend, I gotta pull the Cuda card........and will probably trash the crappy Boinc installation and go back to an older one.........hope I can find the 'hidden' Boinc folders that it put on my rig......what a f'n joke.
Suppose that's what I get for living in the stone age........
I learned a long time ago......if it is working......don't F with it.......LOL. The Boinc devs don't live by that credo.
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VLARkill is cherry picking, pure and simple.......
Unless it can automatically return the work within the host to the CPU and not send it back to Seti for some other 'sucker' to crunch, it bites the big one. And only contributes to current Seti woes.
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That's certainly one opinion that many might agree with, and one that has been tossed about here lately. Mine happens to be that sending work that disables user machines for normal use with flawed application implementation, drives away users, potential donors and makes for a very poor overall picture.
What needs fixing is the application, and as soon as we can get to that without all the peripheral politics continually obstructing progress, then the sooner the issue is moot. It sure as heck doesn't look like anyone else is going to be fixing it but us.
In any case, differences of opinion aside, all the best Mark, and good luck with getting things sorted.
Regards, Jason
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VLARkill is cherry picking, pure and simple.......
Unless it can automatically return the work within the host to the CPU
Use Rebranding tool 1.9 if you have problems with that. It's pretty simple in use, even for novice users. And we talk about 9-year of experience here.
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VLARkill is cherry picking, pure and simple.......
Unless it can automatically return the work within the host to the CPU and not send it back to Seti for some other 'sucker' to crunch, it bites the big one. And only contributes to current Seti woes.
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That's certainly one opinion that many might agree with, and one that has been tossed about here lately. Mine happens to be that sending work that disables user machines for normal use with flawed application implementation, drives away users, potential donors and makes for a very poor overall picture.
What needs fixing is the application, and as soon as we can get to that without all the peripheral politics continually obstructing progress, then the sooner the issue is moot. It sure as heck doesn't look like anyone else is going to be fixing it but us.
In any case, differences of opinion aside, all the best Mark, and good luck with getting things sorted.
Regards, Jason
Like I think you said............
It's not the work that is flawed..........it's how it is worked on.
You folks here have done sooooooooooooooooo much more than Seti could ever give you credit for.
And I don't mean to diss Raistmer's efforts.........it's just that the work-around is a bad thing for the project.
The only solution is to find a way to crunch it properly.........which I know you are working your hearts out on it.
Although in the real world 'catch and release' is a good thing......in Seti crunching it poisons the pond.
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VLARkill is cherry picking, pure and simple.......
Unless it can automatically return the work within the host to the CPU
Use Rebranding tool 1.9 if you have problems with that. It's pretty simple in use, even for novice users. And we talk about 9-year of experience here.
If and when I get the Cuda card up and running with the current drivers I will try that, or the non-VLARkill app that is available.
Your work is not unappreciated, Raistmer........you have undoubtedly spent countless hours on it.
I just dislike the premise that you can toss out what you don't like and take the rest.
That has never been the Seti way.
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When all's said and done Mark, rest assured that none of us 'like' it, and I personally will be happiest when the necessity for any kind of workaround is gone, as that means our fixes can be introduced to stock. Until then, there are thankfully some very effective workarounds that take some end-user effort. Let's hope they're enough to cover the gap until it can be fixed properly, without all this bickering.
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I am currently running the MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_noKill_FPLim2048.exe app in cunjunction with the 1.9 rebranding that runs 2 times each day. This setup works fine.
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I am currently running the MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_noKill_FPLim2048.exe app in cunjunction with the 1.9 rebranding that runs 2 times each day. This setup works fine.
From what I understand.....and correct me if I am wrong.......
I cannot run that app right now because my friggin' Cuda card won't run on anything more current than the 182.50 drivers.......
That's why it's going back to EVGA for replacement.
The 6.6.36 Boinc is going back for replacement also........but that is another whole set of issues.
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VLARkill is a matter of perspective which is one of the reasons it's debated.
It can have a positive impact on production by shifting WUs to a CPU host that can process more efficiently than a GPU that gets bogged -down by it. End result is better use of Vol resources for MORE crunching in the end. Totally valid use as long as there's sufficient project bandwidth available to handle the number of hosts using it. I think the general consensus here is the project's current bandwidth issues are related more to a convergence of several other factors and not primarily or even significantly as the result of VLARkill.
The other side of the debate is that it does benefit someone motivated by greater reward via cherry-picking.
However, while the visible symptom looks similar on the surface, in this case there's a valid medical reason. ;) (fubar stock CUDA application, since project doesn't discriminate WU distribution by processor type).
This type of WU selection is different than if it occurred in the context of normal MB crunching via CPU application.
In that case, a person wanting ONLY mid-AR WUs to optimize their credit/hr ratio & forcing greater bandwidth use so others can complete less rewarding AR WUs would be justifiably wrong!
I personally prefer rebranding as a better bandaid, BUT also accept VLARkill as a valid & acceptable (not ideal) workaround as well.
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From what I understand.....and correct me if I am wrong.......
I cannot run that app right now because my friggin' Cuda card won't run on anything more current than the 182.50 drivers.......
That's why it's going back to EVGA for replacement.
Quite right. nVidia chipset based cards should work with nVidia Drivers. These things rarely come in 'ones', so you'll likely get a revised version with obvious physical changes, or maybe even a model up. Only problem is they'll dump the entire existing stock on the market here in Oz, as per usual ::)
The 6.6.36 Boinc is going back for replacement also........but that is another whole set of issues.
:-X
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... as a better bandaid....
That's it! ... More bandaids!
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... as a better bandaid....
That's it! ... More bandaids!
I'm an electrician.............
We don't use bandaids..........
If a little Scotch 33 or ducktape don't fix it........
Call the ambulance.
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Mark...
I know the feeling too, current voes nowadays aren't fun to deal with.
Both you and i are purely dedicated and always has been, i have been around these forums for a long time now watching everything get better and better.
So in terms of what the people here has achieved for seti, it's a really huge accomplishment and the gurus here should have every credit for it in the world.
I'm sad that you've had soo much trouble with the gpu's.. I have a suspicion if the pci-e bus is too overclocked because the symptoms you mention seems to coicide with that, otherwise i don't know.
When dealing with gpu's if i tend to have problems i most often back up getting it to work in default clocks and then move upwards. If that doesn't work i try different drivers and chipset drivers.
The most tricky situation i got some years ago was a particular gpu board that leaked sporadic 1 and 0 over to the I/O of the raid controller corrupting my windows installations.. That took a while to figure out.
When i replaced that graphics card with another one exactly the same i still got errors, until i tried same graphic card with a different manufacturer it worked.
Well time go by and the science is our passion and dedication and nowadays my internal competition i've achieved with myself building that gpu cruncher only to see what it could deliver at most.
If my calculations are correct this machine could get around the 75k Rac mark but i doubt that i'll get that amount of work dedicated to break that milestone. That's my own competition i've made with myself.
It would be a shame if you called this a quits , hope we could have you around here for many more years to come.
My 2 cents too.
Kind regards Vyper
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Vyper............
You are too kind.......and knowing at the same time.
Being an old man, I do not deal with change too well............
What has worked should aways work.
Double dumb ass on me..........will not and should not be so.
I still miss Simon.....that should give you a read on where I am. Not that Jason is a good man for picking up the gauntlet........He Is..
I will try to get on. My problems with my first Cuda card should not defer me.
Just piled on top pf the Boiinc changes putting files where I don't want them and all.
I love you guys...........all of you.
What you have done here outshadows anything I have done..........
Be well.......I will try to carry on.
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This about says it all..............
Dixies.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM&feature=related
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And now I part a bit from the Seti flak.............
To do what I do best.....share....
This is a song from my generation..........many years ago....
And yet it has gained new meaning today.
Pete Seeger was and is a man beyond his time.....some words mean the same today as they did 30 years or more ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-w2FYIJbw&feature=related
I hope you all understand what I mean.......to continue the Seti quest, we have to take care of things on this planet, and quit killing each other.
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And another spank from my generation.........
Christina's take on and old song......cleaned up with the 'dirty words' spoofed out........
Candy Man......I can post a version with the real lyrics........LOL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvCMOaYR-Y&NR=1
Or.......if nobody wants to hear my tripe here, I can go away.
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Aw hell.........you boyz are all grown ups here........
Here is the full Candyman......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJwXWjbgAxM&NR=1
There are a lot of different mixes of this one.................
Sony's release.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_7srmo5cE
One of the originals by the Andrews Sisters.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=439uSYegXJ4
And a remix of the two......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpg5OfHg3wY
Another interesting remix.............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14B87qyN3v0&feature=related
Have fun, dudes.
The Kittyman lives................
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This about says it all..............
Dixies.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM&feature=related
A follow up..........
"The War Could Not Be Going Better......."????????? What the F does that mean?
Shut Up and Sing trailer.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Npm1S0Mxc
And BTW, I think they did the most inspiring versions of the US national anthem that I ever heard......
a few of them......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5AYcAhvyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEU4xtSfKg&feature=PlayList&p=3202793ECDB6E3CD&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOnd5U9V0Po
And then it comes back to the Setimod thing.........
Just so you know.........
'I'm not ready to make nice........."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj2sp-OmuA4
You can pass that on to those who don't give a shit.
I am done kvetching for now.
But I have not forgiven anything.
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I know for a fact that I would not last if I ever went into the political part of the forums, so I stay out of them on all my forums that I visit.
I can have strong opinions, but mostly they come out of the other side of me that I do my best to keep hidden.
Keep plugging along Mark, we will continue to crunch as long as there is work.
Of course I am a ATI user and have to use my video card over at Milkyway since there is no support at SETI.
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I know for a fact that I would not last if I ever went into the political part of the forums, so I stay out of them on all my forums that I visit.
I can have strong opinions, but mostly they come out of the other side of me that I do my best to keep hidden.
Keep plugging along Mark, we will continue to crunch as long as there is work.
of course I am a ATI user and have to use my video card over at Milkyway since there is no support at SETI.
Well......that is my downfall........I do not keep my opinions hidden.....I wear them on my sleeve.
I will stand tall some day....for now I will retreat into my music thingys........and maybe EVGA will come thru and get my 285 working.........
For now.......I have been researching Tom Paxton a bit.......
Did not realize how many old songs he wrote that I loved when done by other artists.
Born in '37, he was a bit of Dylan and the rest, but never got their fame....he stayed in the background, but he wrote a few biting war protest songs along the way.....stick with me for a moment.
First, here are a couple of songs by Tom....
The first from back in '65...'Buy a Gun For Your Son'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WphNO24h9nA
This one is from '64...sung by Pete Seeger....quite appropriately...'What Did You Learn in School Today?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5Jn8O3s0c
The next is my favorite......my personal fav is a version by Mary Travers, which sadly, I cannot find on Youtube...but Tom wrote it. From '66...'The Last Thing On My Mind'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08lVuhv_Va8
And he wrote so many songs that PPM and Dylan and Baez all sang too.........
Here he is catching up with the times....LOL...'I Am Changing My Name to Fannie Mae'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etUq7IY_7Mc
And a revised version that Arlo Guthrie did.....(yeah, born in '57, same as me, he's still kickin'...)...'I Am Changing My Name to Chrysler'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daBx_PBrvSE
Live version....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAG0XMRty5Y&NR=1
It's amazing how closely knit so many of the artists that I know and love were back then.......hard to separate who wrote what the others sang.
I could post a hundred more linking various folks that might surprise you.
Thanks for listening, hope you enjoy....
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And a newbie (at least to me) that somebody kind turned me on to........
Grace Potter and the Nocturnals.........from the famed Sun Records studios............
Night Rolls On. Sweet babe who can sing and play the blues..........my kinda chicky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyA075eiz28&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esunstudio%2Ecom%2Fsessions%2F&feature=player_embedded
And this is pretty amazing.........
Potter and Satriani and others doing 'Cortez The Killer'...good kibble here!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paeNnR33i5Q
This gurly can sing............'Nothing But The Water....'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrdfFpxTXQ
One more.........she's pretty hot on the 88's too........'Mystery Train...'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8FPwNDOd_I&NR=1
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Just spotted this message passing through here.
Mark don't be too put off by the decisions of the seti mods to ban you again, these people don't always make the best decisions, but if you are constantly breaking the rules, they have to do something, and you know that you deserve it some of the time...LOL :D
As for your contribution to the SETI@home project, its invaluable!. You do far more than just crunch numbers with Hugh rigs, you have been manning those forums for years and its people like you that keep SETI@home running. If there was no forum, and nobody chatting and sharing information, the project would never function. So never discount the contribution you make to the project, its very important!
I look up to you Mark, and i respect and value the information you share. I've got a lot of respect for you buddy. LOL....I'm even occasionally amused by your constant kitty rantings, but Mark that stuff keeps the forum alive, even if its only small talk, its good!
I even made a BOINC kitty smiley for you at one stage :)
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/boinc/Albert/KittysteinBOINC117x50.gif) (http://www.boincteams.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=303)
keep the head held high Mark, and keep crunching!
John37309/Johnney Guinness
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Just spotted this message passing through here.
Mark don't be too put off by the decisions of the seti mods to ban you again, these people don't always make the best decisions, but if you are constantly breaking the rules, they have to do something, and you know that you deserve it some of the time...LOL :D
As for your contribution to the SETI@home project, its invaluable!. You do far more than just crunch numbers with Hugh rigs, you have been manning those forums for years and its people like you that keep SETI@home running. If there was no forum, and nobody chatting and sharing information, the project would never function. So never discount the contribution you make to the project, its very important!
I look up to you Mark, and i respect and value the information you share. I've got a lot of respect for you buddy. LOL....I'm even occasionally amused by your constant kitty rantings, but Mark that stuff keeps the forum alive, even if its only small talk, its good!
I even made a BOINC kitty smiley for you at one stage :)
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/john502/boinc/Albert/KittysteinBOINC117x50.gif) (http://www.boincteams.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=303)
keep the head held high Mark, and keep crunching!
John37309/Johnney Guinness
Thank you Johnney........
It's the respect and affection of folks like you and many others on the boards there that make it worth my while....
It means sooooooo much to me. And that's why it hurts me so much when the mods lock me out.
I'll be back.....someday.
I am not ready for the 'Big White Gate'...just yet.
Grace Potter again...amazing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kip_XtEwWow&feature=related
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Thank you Johnney........
It's the respect and affection of folks like you and many others on the boards there that make it worth my while....
It means sooooooo much to me. And that's why it hurts me so much when the mods lock me out.
I'll be back.....someday.
I am not ready for the 'Big White Gate'...just yet.
Grace Potter again...amazing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kip_XtEwWow&feature=related
LOL.... The mods will let you back "In a little while"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-VfbX6uBMc
Your an important part of the SETI@home project, and most importantly, your an important part of the SETI@home family. "Brothers in arms"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6oWvAGmiCo . Brothers in SETI Mark!
John.
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All they have to do is forgive some of my shortcomings and
'Treat Me Right'
Grace Potter and the Nocturnals....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VqE6LcGz-A&feature=related
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A little head up to y'all..........
If ya like da' blues......and care at all about where it came from........
Watch dis' flick........
Cadillac Records.........
I won't be a spoiler and tell you that it's NOT about a record company named 'Cadillac Records'.......you will have to figure that out for yourself.......
Took me a ways though the movie to see that.......
Len was another record label founded by another man like Sam Phillips..........'Sun' records......similar stories.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRrBihMJbZo
Beyonce' made the flick work............Etta.......
Whatever, dudes...........
I am still in the background.
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Bought another 42h12192 on EbAY today...
Oscar Mayer passed away,,,,,,,,
Done here..........
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Crippled up Cuda crunching away...........gotta take it offline to do the RMA......
One more diss, and I'm goin' away...........hoo ya, sing my song.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3x4HvXTyGQ&feature=related
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Well........
Here I am still rambling about....
The Setimods have dicked me for another two week or more.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOj1GWmOK8&NR=1
So be it.......................
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The best cover of a hit that was not a cover.originiallu..........
Santo and his bro..........
One of my favorite songs of all time.........Sleepwalk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxTQXAgY3Q
It's still that 'dead stop' that he does that kills me every time..........LOL.
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And the best cover of the original........
Brian Setzer.........
I would marry this man if I wuz a gurl.............................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuHREUIVz8&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Best Sleepwalk ever played on a guitar.........
Lots of other Setzer stuff on my Cafe thread if the mods will ever get thier head outta their butts.........
What one man can do with God and a Gretsch................oh my.............
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Couple more of miy favorite links........
A favorite kitty list........
And at this point, I don't give a great Goddamn if any of you cares or not........
Play along........or take a hike. This might take you a while.............LOL.
Hope you enjoy the ride, my friends.
I am till waiting......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM&feature=related
The best boogie woogie riff ever recorded......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtyY16Wn5o
The possiibly best use of the rockin '88s ever..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcsabESkImM
And the God of them keys........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifEc-RazQlY
Best Guitar player ever.......was at his last show at Alpine Valley......damn mountains...and this is by far one of the best clips I have ever found of him.......GAWD, I still miss the MAN.......(sniff)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U
The best comedy routine of all time......still lampooned to this day.....new footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
Best Gurl group ever.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDPPu53V80
One of the only clips left on Youtube of the best feel good movies ever.....they have purged the rest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnkB1fWcxyY
Best movie trailer.......and the movie lived up to it.........'We're on a Mission from God'...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjGfnsjdJec
Best single movie scene ever......Dirty Harry.....and he has so many other memorable moments.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daFb3J-cwLg
Most seductive video.......LOL.....I noticed you around......Touch And GO....'Would You?'...well, would you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izBbP2kro-c
The best Tex-Mex artist aliive.......Raul Malo.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCm0aW1vMQ&feature=related
The best man who ever cut his bootstraps from his daddy.......but still kept them. Hank Jr......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D425x657NQk
Best dance scene ever done........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bibtqDxXv1o
The best remix of a song my daddy loved......Christina.....oh wow.....Sweet Candy..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvCMOaYR-Y&NR=1
Best soppy kissing song......I know......it was hot back in '76 or so, and got me laid a time or twol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8epOsbk418
Best defiant song by a bunch of punk who don't have a clue.........The Clash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ
Nastiest hissy fit......don't piss this gurly off..........Miranda Lambert.......Kerosene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RWbW29nmU4
Best mouth harp........Magic Dick.....oh yah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_d_V5EqgQ
Best car chase ever caught on film........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rjJWrSnXM
Best guitar duel ever done.l.......Vai VS Cooder......WOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BkhXAmM3U
Best cover of a soul song by the most beautiful gurl on the planet....The Z.....Ms. Baez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVLb8OHyqg&NR=1
And then I gotta go back to some amazing footage from Newport back in '.63 or so......35 years or more hence......it still rings true......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_fDuBjqqA&NR=1
And this list is in no way complete.......I could go on for hours.
I may repost this list if I ever get the chance on Seti................................
I love you, my kitty friends.
Best Regards.
Mark
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I am sorry folks..............
I am really distressed over my treatment over at Set at the hands of the current mod crew.....
BUT.....hope lives eternal.....LOL.
This is my hope.......
Those of you who do not know me well.............well, the humour may escape you.
Do re mi...........la ti do...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k
An interesting view shot by a bystander at the station.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKPiL2h_Vww&feature=related
Another interesting viewpoint from a bystander....with more of the real sound that existed there....
At about 1:40 the children come down the staircase and bedlam breaks loose.....LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXiuK6nrWTA&feature=related
And here is a version that somebody put together split-screening the final version at the top with two other camera angles below.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q39-6gJfmo
What a marvelous human experiment.......even though it was a staged promo stunt.
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The most famous version of this song was done by Peter Yarrow, Paul Stookey, and Mary Travers......
Otherwise just known to y'all as Peter, Paul and Mary. Or PPM for short.
http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/history/f-bio.htm
But it was Pete Seeger that wrote the song, as he did for many others who went on to make them famous.
This Land is Your Land......is a benchmark folk song. We may need to sing it more often if Obumma don't get his head outta his...............well, you know what I mean.
Wonderful version......with Arlo Guthrie, no less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSIy0wq_-8A
And from the same concert......
If I Had a Hammer.......which PPM also made a hit with. But no more soul than Pete leading the audience, who, I think, sang as much as he did......LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujzKk_4WBsE&feature=related
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I've been following this thread with interest, though being on dial-up I don't do YouTube so have missed much. Keep the faith, Mark, the S@H forums aren't nearly as important as crunching the data.
Joe
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I've been following this thread with interest, though being on dial-up I don't do YouTube so have missed much. Keep the faith, Mark, the S@H forums aren't nearly as important as crunching the data.
Joe
Thank you so much for saying so, Joe. Sorry you can't enjoy the youtube stuff..............many wonderful musical moments there. If you can garner enough bandwidth to do so........watch the do re mi link a couple of posts back..........it will do your heart good.
The kitties have been minding the crunchers well.
#29 in the world for total Seti credits.............and I am still inching my way up.
I love Eric and Angela..............and my respect for Eric and his project is boundless.
It's just some of the folks appointed to mend the fences that I have problems with...........
But, as you said.....what's more important is that we get the job done.
Thanx again, Joe.
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Oh my..........
Kicked on Seti...........again.
Blurf has gone packing..........
Still wish him well....I am not that hateful.
The i7's are crunching wonderfully, with the Cuda's.
Pushing them all to the limits....waiting for a crash. And any new developments here.
Meow.
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How long this time Mark?
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How long this time Mark?
Dunno for sure....
The standard is two weeks.....if the mods don't try to extend it after that.
Sigh.
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Always said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3enjfQyuE
zzzzzzzzzzj
Just leave me alone...........meow.
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Only place left to post this..........
Best version ever..........
Find your soul or lose it forever..........KD Lang........
You don't have to believe in God to love this song........if you don't, just leave the message and take the melody....I will still love you, and so will HE......
If you are human, expect to cry a little..........I always do.
And I will NOT aplologiize for this..................so suck it up and enjoy.....or cry........whatever........meow.
Supposedly took him years to write......and many have covered lit since.....
Tina Dickow...in Dutch...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud-M6YqeOWg&feature=related
'Over The Rhine'...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbZVzultvFs&feature=related
Damien Leith...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA9Gpisd2IY&feature=related
Alexander Burke...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsuXbkrA_AQ&feature=related
Allison Crowe....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMOdVXAPJ0&feature=related
Sheryl Crow...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDfH51gvc0&feature=related
Lisa....nice piano work...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGo6FY8TJFI&feature=related
Imogen Heap...most excellent...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNQu9rP7xwI&feature=related
Amanda Jenssen...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAg5ZOZfVLo&feature=related
II Divo...in Italian...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2SZ-nCBmsU&feature=related
Kate Voegele...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22NMAG1k18&feature=related
Rufus Wainwright...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmbQEQltOwM&feature=related
John Cale...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbdLVX736U&feature=related
and even a bootleg Dylan...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-8Arvz8rHM&feature=related
And who couldn't cry over the 'goodbye scene' from the OC?...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMGyl-l3qqc&feature=fvw
Should be a version somewhere there that trips yer trigger.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/Hallelujah_(Leonard_Cohen_song
God will save us.......
Save the lamb.
Give peace among us.......
No one else can.
(Not from the song, my own words..................)
Kitties' pick for the most beatiful version KD did................and there are many.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTv9m8c6hnw
'Course.........Leonard's own version was a dramatically diff'rent thing.........diff'rent lyrics too. "There was I time that you would let me know......what was really going on below..... But now you never show it to me, do ya?" Not so secular..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTiXoMCppw&feature=fvw
Praising God or lamenting a lost love's loins?
"I remember when I moved in you......and love when let up she was movin' too.......and ev'ry single breath said.......Hallelujah."
"I did my best.......it wasn't much.
I couldn't feel, so I learned to touch.
I've told the truth.........
I didn't come all this way to fool ya.................."
Ya........me too. Most excellent lyrics award.........
I can see why he lost sleep for years over this one.
Soul baring is such an ugly business.
I should know.
It is said he wrote 80 verses for this song................
Guess you'll have to ask Leonard. Or come up with your own interpretation...........
But the end result is the same.....
If you can't bring yourself to say it out loud..........just voice it in your heart.......HE will still hear you.
Musically, Leonard's version is superior.........but for sheer guts and soul......the kitties give KD 10 paws.
Love you all,
Mark
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This weekend's rant...........
Maybe get back on the Seti forums tomorrow..........or not.
Just a tune before I go........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjOMIki6qs
Sorry if I have put upon you, my friends...........but that's the way the rails roll.............meow.
Got a heart buiilt of silicon........and souil...........
I am a child of my daddy.........he knew nothing of these computers.........hardly can get him to answer an email........
But I am stiill here...........and I wiill be utill they kick me from the project...
But.......you don't have to call me asshole, asshole.
LOL........
It was all I could do to keep from pukin'......
I'll hang around as long as you will f**k me...........(just my paraphrase)
David Allen Coe................the last verse goes like this here......
Just county shit..........from a Wisconsin dude......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEo8poVlQrM&feature=PlayList&p=33B67A1503108F1A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=15
Lots more to come if they don't let me back in........trains,.........and trucks............and prison...............poor 'ol mamma..........she shouldnt have robbed that train.
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BITE ME..........BUT THIS IS THE MOST AMOZING PIANO PIECE EVER.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVuP1BjbhAg
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o...m......f.........GOD ,,,,,,,,
iMPOSSIBLE............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaX1j4elJRU&feature=channel
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And then she makes love to me like this..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEptNFzLpjk&feature=channel
Too bad she is already married..................
I would marry her for her soul.......not her hands.
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Perhaps not as cute, young, or thin as the ones you're posting... but they DO serve Pizza here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxCak_3aGo
.. and if you've never been to hear the sounds of the two Wurlitzers at Radio City going full tilt by folks who know how to play 'em, that's the signal we should be blasting out into space ;-)
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Perhaps not as cute, young, or thin as the ones you're posting... but they DO serve Pizza here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxCak_3aGo
.. and if you've never been to hear the sounds of the two Wurlitzers at Radio City going full tilt by folks who know how to play 'em, that's the signal we should be blasting out into space ;-)
LOL....that would bring ET running, eh?
Quite the amazing instrument.
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LOL....that would bring ET running, eh?
Quite the amazing instrument.
I thought that would be tongue-in-check good for eti as Wurlitzer begins with "Wu." ;-) About the only words that do are a small handfull of German names (or things named for them), German foods, or Chinese villages... and that's about it. And yes, your piano pieces are also appropriate as piano begins with Pi. Now just tune one with the same 2.5 mhz range ... (I bet the red shift on Bach is painful).
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i'm sticking with BFG cards.
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Oh people, I've been here before, I've known this road, and I've walked this floor....
You see, I used to live alone before I knew 'ya....
The best version that Cohen ever did of his own song......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttv5dyvtF4o
The organ work is just the tits........
An electronic version, but sounds just like an old Hammond B52......remember them swinging, phase shifting horn cabinets? And the backup vocals were powerful enough to 'turn goat piss into gasoline' (remember where that quote came from).......LOL. I do.
I didn't come all this way just ta fool 'ya.......Enjoy.
Meow.
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Oh people, I've been here before, I've known this road, and I've walked this floor....
You see, I used to live alone before I knew 'ya....
The best version that Cohen ever did of his own song......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttv5dyvtF4o
The organ work is just the tits........
An electronic version, but sounds just like an old Hammond B52......remember them swinging, phase shifting horn cabinets? And the backup vocals were powerful enough to 'turn goat piss into gasoline' (remember where that quote came from).......LOL. I do.
I didn't come all this way just ta fool 'ya.......Enjoy.
Meow.
I must confess.......the gurl that corrupted me for life........took me to a bar when ai was 18.....
Never drank much before then.........got me whacked on whiskey and weed..
Alll history from then. I never quite got over loving her........still haven't, 30 some years hence.
So, now I struggle along, felll in love with Lori.......and now I have to deal with our Oscar kitty dying...
Life sux sometimes, but I still tale pause every day to ask God for his favors and forgiveness...........his mysteries are hidden to me........
But not forever.
Meow.
Meow.
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And here I am agian.............
Just HAVE to share these couple of ccuts..........
Karen Lawence.........soooooooooooo like Joplin I xan't stand it........
Had to share........enjoy,,,,,,,,
Fun and Games......... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgSgg9OjKg)
and a new one.......I had it on CD, but never saw it on youtube until nowl.........wowza...........take me down, babeeeeeeeeee.
Cadillac Blues.... (http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=sqx-1ME6rxo&feature=related)
I would call it 'the **** me Baby Blues'........LOL............my furture wife........as it were.
Edited by Admin : Let's keep it PG, ok? ;)
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