Can someone confirm this?

[Geek@Play]

Claggy posted on Seti Main this information.  http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60285&nowrap=true#1004228

quote from his posting.......

The quota should be per app version, 100 for CPU Astropulse_v505, 100 for CPU Seti_enhanced, 100 for Cuda_Fermi, 100 for Cuda32, 100 for Cuda, 100 for ATI Astropulse_v505, etc.

Can someone here verify this statement?  Did this information come from Berkeley?

If true, then are the Seti servers going to send the VLAR ONLY to cpu's? (version 603)

[Claggy]

Did you look at my Beta Application info page i linked to?

Claggy

[Richard Haselgrove]

Claggy posted on Seti Main this information.  http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=60285&nowrap=true#1004228

quote from his posting.......

The quota should be per app version, 100 for CPU Astropulse_v505, 100 for CPU Seti_enhanced, 100 for Cuda_Fermi, 100 for Cuda32, 100 for Cuda, 100 for ATI Astropulse_v505, etc.

Yes, that's the plan: you can see it in action at Beta, with the new Application Info pages.

But the implementation at SETI is partial, incomplete, and as yet bug-ridden. (Beta is better, but not yet fully debugged)

If true, then are the Seti servers going to send the VLAR ONLY to cpu's? (version 603)

I doubt it. It could be done, but they haven't shown any enthusiasm to take that up since I first suggested it in February 2009.

If they do decide to implement that, it would mean yet another set of bespoke server code to be written, installed - and debugged: VLARs are not applications (which are handled by BOINC code), but jobs, the exclusive responsibility of SETI. And we know how many spare programmers they have.....

[Geek@Play]

As always...........thanks Richard.

[efmer (fred)]

Does this mean that everybody gets a max of 100 tasks, no matter what system you are running?

I see some reports that there is work distributed for regular Seti tasks but not for optimized versions.

[Raistmer]

I see some reports that there is work distributed for regular Seti tasks but not for optimized versions.

It's untrue, my host recived work and it completely on opt builds of course.
Looks like it even recived 1 AP task for ATI GPU last night.

EDIT: here log of that work request:
15/06/2010 04:01:10   SETI@home   Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
15/06/2010 04:01:10   SETI@home   Requesting new tasks for GPU
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse v5
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: Your preferences allow work from applications other than those selected
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: Sending work from other applications

[efmer (fred)]

I see some reports that there is work distributed for regular Seti tasks but not for optimized versions.

It's untrue, my host recived work and it completely on opt builds of course.
Looks like it even recived 1 AP task for ATI GPU last night.

EDIT: here log of that work request:
15/06/2010 04:01:10   SETI@home   Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
15/06/2010 04:01:10   SETI@home   Requesting new tasks for GPU
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse v5
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: Your preferences allow work from applications other than those selected
15/06/2010 04:01:15   SETI@home   Message from server: Sending work from other applications

The problem, what I can see is only or mainly with the GPU. I still get some CPU work, got 2x2 AP  and some enhanced on another computer.

[Raistmer]

As you can see my example is exactly for asking GPU work.
Maybe you mean problem with asking CUDA-specific work then?

[efmer (fred)]

As you can see my example is exactly for asking GPU work.
Maybe you mean problem with asking CUDA-specific work then?

Sorry, that's what I mean. But what I understand that every plann class now has it's own work assigned to it. Like cuda 2.3, cuda version x, cuda version y.
Just like the version numbers now.

[Raistmer]

Maybe, but my observation shows that it's not so clear.
ATI GPU app is definitely separate app, it recived only 1 task but not same quota limiting message appears for GPU work requests too...

[Josef W. Segur]

Maybe, but my observation shows that it's not so clear.
ATI GPU app is definitely separate app, it recived only 1 task but not same quota limiting message appears for GPU work requests too...

The quota limit message clearly doesn't appear until the servers think you've downloaded that many in the current day for a specific application. There's a very strong suspicion that the code which resets the count of downloads isn't being called for anonymous platform. That is, the limit may not be 100 per day but rather 100 since the server changes were put in place. My Pentium-M has gotten 15 MB and 1 AP in the last week, my P4 even fewer, so I can't judge directly.
                                                                                        Joe

[perryjay]

I don't know if this will make any sense but I've not got any of these strange messages on my E5400 with a 9500GT running Vista Home Premium 32bit. I keep a three day cache and only have around 120 or so work units on my machine, 52 CPU and 70 GPU tasks according to the rescheduler. I have no problem keeping the tasks topped off. Finish a couple, report and get some more. Is it because I keep my requests below the 100 limit that it keeps me filled up with work?

[efmer (fred)]

I don't know if this will make any sense but I've not got any of these strange messages on my E5400 with a 9500GT running Vista Home Premium 32bit. I keep a three day cache and only have around 120 or so work units on my machine, 52 CPU and 70 GPU tasks according to the rescheduler. I have no problem keeping the tasks topped off. Finish a couple, report and get some more. Is it because I keep my requests below the 100 limit that it keeps me filled up with work?

The less you ask the more you get. Just got one Cuda on my laptop, just seconds for the weekly shutdown.
Hmm, it's exactly the same 64 bit Lunatics installer as the other machines that need a lot more and get nothing.

[sunu]

There's a very strong suspicion that the code which resets the count of downloads isn't being called for anonymous platform. That is, the limit may not be 100 per day but rather 100 since the server changes were put in place.
                                                                                        Joe

I'm not seeing this. Since this saga began, my pc downloads 100 or so workunits every day and then stops with quota reached.

[Richard Haselgrove]

I'm not seeing this. Since this saga began, my pc downloads 100 or so workunits every day and then stops with quota reached.

That's interesting. What version, exactly, is it downloading for? (stock/anon, OS, platform, bits - anything you can thnk of).