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When corrupted results get validated...
perryjay:
I thought they said they had something to catch false valids. I guess that entry in nitpkr about nospikes is what I was thinking about. I try to make sure the people I recommend optimized apps to understand the risks involved but I do forget occasionally. I also ask that they check their work and come back if they have any problems. I also send PMs now and then but as Richard said in the SETI thread, I don't like to do that. Another problem with that is so many of the problem machines are anonymous users or have email notification turned off so they never see they have a PM. I guess it comes down to we all do what we can and if that is not enough, so be it, we tried.
Jason G:
--- Quote from: perryjay on 30 Dec 2010, 02:41:49 pm ---I thought they said they had something to catch false valids. I guess that entry in nitpkr about nospikes is what I was thinking about. .... I guess it comes down to we all do what we can and if that is not enough, so be it, we tried.
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Exactly. We can do our best within 'reasonable' efforts, but there will always be those situations & personalities that escape or intentionally avoid the 'right thing'. It is really the ultimate duty of the project in question, and as Raistmer indicates the Boinc framework itself, to ensure the integrity of any results is adequate to support the claims made in any published announcement or material.
I ask people to step back & take a look for a minute. This is part of the science of distributed computing, and a worthy challenge to make sure we are doing what we can, and that the system can be robustified to adequetly handle as many possibilities as we can, moving forward. We want, as developers, to strive toward perfection, whatever that is, but it is not a realistic goal to use absolute measures. The universe is NOT digital.
Jason
Raistmer:
--- Quote from: Jason G on 30 Dec 2010, 02:57:36 pm ---The universe is NOT digital.
Jason
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Just can't restrain ;D : only if we all live not on 13th floor... ;) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/plotsummary)
Jason G:
--- Quote from: Raistmer on 30 Dec 2010, 04:35:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: Jason G on 30 Dec 2010, 02:57:36 pm ---The universe is NOT digital.
Jason
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Just can't restrain ;D : only if we all live not on 13th floor... ;) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/plotsummary)
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LoL, It reminds me of when 'the Matrix' came out. Many presented theories suggesting religious & scientific connections. I proposed it was a movie made to make money & was lambashed for that ::) oh well...
Raistmer:
Hehe, second and, especially, third parts - definitely ;)
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And I was "killed" by their idea to use mens as energy source, quite dumb idea IMHO. Why not read good books and take some ideas from where, Dan Simmons "Endymion" for example, AI used mens brains much more cleaver there IMHO :)
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