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Seti is down again
msattler:
--- Quote from: Frizz on 22 Oct 2010, 04:35:46 am ---Why not just detach for a month or two? Until the new HP boxes arrive. This is what I will do ... I'm no masochist ;)
Quoting Papa:
"I have set No New Tasks. ... So the next time you push that Update Button, ask yourself if you are going to be the straw that broke the camels back?"
http://setiathome.berkele{/edu/forum_thread.php?id=61843#1043500
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Pappa has been a bit too critical in the last few weeks........
Just let the boxes idle and keep sniffing.
Like the kitties do. Sniff, sniff, nothing there, sniff again in a few hours.
Sniff, sniff.........and sooner or later, there will be kibble.
Sniff. The kitties know.
Meoooooooooowww. Sniff....sniff.......LOL sniff sniff........
Frizz:
--- Quote from: Raistmer on 22 Oct 2010, 05:22:15 am ---There will be no harm to servers if there will be no participants.
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Yes, I have to admit while scanning over Papas posting this is what I was getting ("without you users we wouldn't have this problems").
I know this will piss many power crunchers off - but why not just giving out the number of work units the project can really[/k] handle?
Anyway ... maybe in the end this all is just a huge experiment in Crowd Psychology - and Self Adaptation ;)
P.S.
Shame that other, very-well funded, projects like for example Einstein@Home, don't allow users/developers to write optimized apps. Maybe setiquest.org well be an alternative ... one day.
Richard Haselgrove:
--- Quote from: msattler on 22 Oct 2010, 05:29:14 am ---
Like the kitties do. Sniff, sniff, nothing there, sniff again in a few hours.
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I have no problem with the kitties sniffing every few hours.
But have you seen what a cuda box will do while caching up? It sniffs about every twenty seconds. I suggest that might well be a problem (because a 'sniff' is an incredible amount for work for the database server), and - yes - it would be better in the short term while we are resource-constrained to voluntarily limit those hosts which are in the heavy-hitting phase of their task allocations.
Richard Haselgrove:
--- Quote from: Frizz on 22 Oct 2010, 05:46:20 am ---
P.S.
Shame that other, very-well funded, projects like for example Einstein@Home, don't allow users/developers to write optimized apps. Maybe setiquest.org well be an alternative ... one day.
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Did you see my reply on the Einstein message board? The source is available - linked from the front page, even, and there are instructions for compilation. The only request - and it is that, a request - is that you using a version number of 0.99 or lower when reporting results from a self-compiled application.
The main reason Einstein hasn't spawned an optimisation community is that the apps are already optimised in-house, so everybody gets an optimised app, not just the self-selected few. But I'm sure there's still scope for more optimisation - if you think you can do better, I'm sure you will be welcomed with open arms. You might even get a consultancy out of it, as Akos Fekete did.
msattler:
--- Quote from: Richard Haselgrove on 22 Oct 2010, 06:05:23 am ---
--- Quote from: msattler on 22 Oct 2010, 05:29:14 am ---
Like the kitties do. Sniff, sniff, nothing there, sniff again in a few hours.
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I have no problem with the kitties sniffing every few hours.
But have you seen what a cuda box will do while caching up? It sniffs about every twenty seconds. I suggest that might well be a problem (because a 'sniff' is an incredible amount for work for the database server), and - yes - it would be better in the short term while we are resource-constrained to voluntarily limit those hosts which are in the heavy-hitting phase of their task allocations.
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Richard.......I respect your opinions greatly.......
But this is just something that does not work for me.........
If the servers are working correctly, the 'sniffers' get their work or allocations quickly and are silenced accordingly. most Boinc versions do that. And then they sniff out more, when allowed.
The small percentage of folks like me that sniff out work all the time is such a small percentage of the user base that I refuse to accept that it has an impact.......
It's the large user base that runs out of work and Boinc sniffs..........because Boinc is TRAINED to sniff.
Even the new 20 hour backoff kitties will have to sniff once in a while, and it will add up. Eventually, they are ALL sniffing. Not just MY kitties.
My kitties are just trained to sniff more often.....and the few sniffs they give the servers don't bother them a bit, trust me. It's the mulit-sniffs from the multitudes that are the problem. And that cannot be avoided. Even with your buddy DA's 20 hour frickin' backoffs.
I will never load a Boinc client with such backoffs.........unless I have somebody recompile it for me without.
Verstai?
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