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Problem with optimized client and boinc core 5.10.x
WHRoeder:
--- Quote from: Crunch3r on 14 Jun 2007, 10:35:23 am ---
--- Quote from: WHRoeder on 14 Jun 2007, 08:16:34 am ---I had remove the 5.17 reference from app_info and was crunching away just fine.
I updated to Boinc 5.9.x and was still happy.
Then I updated to Boinc 5.10.4 and the manager locks up on the Tasks tab.
I had to uninstall, delete the directory, and reinstall - losing all work in progress.
2.2B is incompatible with 5.10.4!
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Not sure what you'Re talking about here.... If you install a beta version of Boinc and that one locks up or crashes, then what has the 2.2B todo with it ?
Exactly nothing i would say.
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Boinc 5.10.4 doesn't crash without the 2.2B
therefor, as I said 2.2B is incompatible with 5.10.4
The point is 2.2B is suppose to be a drop in replacement for the seti app which works under 5.10.4 and it's not.
Simon:
Again, no. You're wrong. BOINC crashes with an app_info.xml present that has the wrong entries. So, it is NOT, repeat NOT the app that is incompatible! I'll stop repeating myself now :)
A correct app_info.xml will make it work fine with 5.10.x.
Regards,
Simon.
Josef W. Segur:
--- Quote from: Simon on 15 Jun 2007, 12:19:31 pm ---A correct app_info.xml will make it work fine with 5.10.x.
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Simon is exactly correct.
But let me explain the situation a little more fully. BOINC changeset 12702 is what causes the error. Here's the description:
--- Code: ---David 21 May 2007
- client: if anonymous platform, don't match platform/version
in lookup_app_version(); just match app
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Because it no longer checks the version number, multiple listings of the same app are no longer possible. Dr. Anderson isn't targetting optimized apps, rather that's part of a larger set of changes.
The reason we have multiple version numbers for the same app is because BOINC versions before 5.5.12 need them if the user wants to run both SETI Main and SETI Beta. The client type statistics indicate almost half of S@H hosts are using those older versions, about half are using 5.5.12 to 5.9.x versions which don't need multiple version numbers but handle them without complaint, and less than 1% are using 5.10.x. That 1% is growing, includes all those who want a 64-bit Windows version of BOINC, and will grow more quickly when they decide 5.10.x is good enough to be released as the recommended version.
Meanwhile, S@H is preparing a transition to Multi-Beam work for which updated versions of our apps will be needed. We will certainly address any incompatibility with the latest version of BOINC with those. But if 5.10.x becomes the recommended version before then, we may try to spread the word about required app_info.xml changes more widely. Meanwhile, my personal opinion is that those doing BOINC Alpha testing should have the skill necessary to easily handle the situation.
Joe
WHRoeder:
--- Quote from: Simon on 15 Jun 2007, 12:19:31 pm ---Again, no. You're wrong. BOINC crashes with an app_info.xml present that has the wrong entries. So, it is NOT, repeat NOT the app that is incompatible! I'll stop repeating myself now :)
A correct app_info.xml will make it work fine with 5.10.x.
Regards,
Simon.
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2.2B comes as a package .exe .pdb and app_info.xml I never said the app was incompatible, the package is. How about updating the package with a correct app_info.xml so it will work fine with 5.10.x?
Also I have not found the indicated changes to app_info that work under 5.10.x
5.10.x will be the recommended version sometime. This board should be ahead of the curve not blaming S@H and passing the buck
By argueing with me over your trivial semantics you are discouraging others from running optimized apps.!
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Gecko_R7:
--- Quote from: WHRoeder on 16 Jun 2007, 09:29:38 am ---2.2B comes as a package .exe .pdb and app_info.xml I never said the app was incompatible, the package is. How about updating the package with a correct app_info.xml so it will work fine with 5.10.x?
Also I have not found the indicated changes to app_info that work under 5.10.x
5.10.x will be the recommended version sometime. This board should be ahead of the curve not blaming S@H and passing the buck
By argueing with me over your trivial semantics you are discouraging others from running optimized apps.!
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Several people on this thread have attempted to help you and explain.
Anwers and solutions have been provided including this from Simons previous post to you....
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=40174&nowrap=true#586031
If you choose to run optimized aps or developmental BOINC clients, these are not always "plug & play" as stock releases are.
Some edits/changes/customizing may be required, especially if one is following developmental BOINC releases.
This means most of us follow the threads on the main board and here which usually have the solutions.
In case of questions, MANY knowledeable people are always glad to help, but one should also be willing to do some of the work/reseach themselves. It is not reasonable to expect the developers/optimizers to "stay ahead" of every possible contingecy w/ Beta releases w/ necessary changes to fit every possible combination of opt ap & client.
Still....they do their best.
Sir, it is no one's intentions on this board to offend, but you might also consider that your tone and responses have been rather abrasive, and your last is completely out of line.
Whether you run stock aps, optimized ones, w/ or w/o developmental BOINC cleints is your call.
If you are not satisfied w/ the efforts and responses to help you on this board, you are welcome to look for help elsewhere.
Regards,
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