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[Furex]

I will use Arctic Silver 5 (80% silver) how I must use these?

Every TIM must be applied according to the specific instructions supplied by the manufacturer (or the marketer) - For AS5, you can rely on their own detailed instructions.

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

Hello!

Now I'm little confused...

With the BOXed heatsink and fan I had temp. with Intel Desktop Utilities 22 °C (Processor Thermal Margin).
Is here somebody who know the usage of the Intel Desktop Utilities?
Because what does this mean= 22°C (Processor Thermal Margin)?
22°C to go to the max. temp.? So 65 °C - 22 °C = 43 °C?
OnBoard FanControl: 2.000 RPM.
CoreTemp: 71- 79 °C
[room= 22 °C]

Now with the Thermalright SI-128 + Papst 4412 F/2GP and Arctic Silver 5:
Desktop Utilities: 25 °C
OnBoard FanControl: 1.500 RPM
CoreTemp: 69- 73 °C
[room= 20,5 °C]

(FanControl OFF: Fan on 2.470 RPM but only ~ 2 °C less temp.)

Now maybe 4 °C less temp. with the SI-128... (CoreTemp)

This can be right?
I used the thermal compound right?

The Motherboard, Intel D975XBX2 have now a "roundness" around the CPU-Socket (if you look from the side to the board), because the holder from the heatsink pulls a lot on the motherboard. It's looking like the CPU is now more far away from the heatsink... (I had explained it well? )

I found pics from a test:
http://pics.computerbase.de/1/5/0/9/8/3.jpg
http://pics.computerbase.de/1/5/0/9/8/2.jpg

It's looking like this.
If you look from the under side (I didn't found a pic), it's looking there is a small mountain direct under the socket.
So I have the fear, that the heatsink are not correct on the CPU (without the correct pressure)(without the direct correct contact)

Friendly greetings!

[Fivestar Crashtest]

Wow!  It looks like the heatsink it bowing the motherboard!  I'd be scared to mount it upright in a case! 

Have you tried Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool?  I am using that with my Bad Axe 2.  I downloaded it from Intel's site.  I have temps around 50 deg C with the stock heat sink and a little overclocking.

Regards,

Pam

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

Wow!  It looks like the heatsink it bowing the motherboard!  I'd be scared to mount it upright in a case! 

Have you tried Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool?  I am using that with my Bad Axe 2.  I downloaded it from Intel's site.  I have temps around 50 deg C with the stock heat sink and a little overclocking.

Regards,

Pam

Hello!

You have REALLY ~ 50 °C under full load?

I used the Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool and the program shows me the same temps like that CoreTemp program.

Room= 19,5 °C
67- 72 °C the 4 Cores.

You must use CoreTemp too, then you see the 4 cores!

You overclock and the stock heatsink & fan and you have ONLY 50 °C? 

You use/ed the Intel Desktop Utilities, too?
Which temp you have "Processor Thermal Margin"?
Please can you check this?


I have there 25- 26 °C and the fan is running 1.200 RPM (~ 50 %) (max. speed 2.470 RPM)
(Thermalright SI-128 + Papst 4412 F/2GP)

In the past with BOXed heatsink & fan I had room: 22 °C and the Cores: 71- 77 °C (FanCortrol ON)
FanControl OFF: ~ 10 °C less

Maybe I have a damaged Motherboard or CPU...


Friendly greetings!

[Fivestar Crashtest]

Sorry, I only have the E6700.  I used the Intel Desktop utilities for a while but it seemed to freeze up on me.  But with three different temp monitors, we have to believe it is really that hot.  That Thermalright fan looks about like a Big Typhoon, I surprised it can't cool it down any.  And after seeing your temperature troubles with the QX6700, I don't think I want one.

Before you resort to water cooling, maybe you could try dropping the cpu core voltage back a bit.  I have done that to lower my temperatures before.  What is the BIOS version on your board?  Perhaps updating to the most current version might help?

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

Sorry, I only have the E6700.  I used the Intel Desktop utilities for a while but it seemed to freeze up on me.  But with three different temp monitors, we have to believe it is really that hot.  That Thermalright fan looks about like a Big Typhoon, I surprised it can't cool it down any.  And after seeing your temperature troubles with the QX6700, I don't think I want one.

Before you resort to water cooling, maybe you could try dropping the cpu core voltage back a bit.  I have done that to lower my temperatures before.  What is the BIOS version on your board?  Perhaps updating to the most current version might help?

Hello!

Thanx for reply!

I don't overclock, it's @ 2.666 GHz...
I have the newest BIOS.

Your 50 °C on the CPU- heatspreader (which program you use) or with "Intel Thermal Analysis Tool" direct the Cores?

I started a thread at S@H about the temps...
and it's looking like this that the high temperatur is normal...

"Intel Core2 Extreme QX6700 and temps"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=38069


The Quad have around 20 °C more temp. than the Dual´s...


Friendly greetings!

[Fivestar Crashtest]

I found this here
http://www.pureoverclock.com/download.php?det=6


"TAT (Intel Thermal Analysis Tool) accurately monitors all of the individual core temperatures for Intel processors like the Core 2 Duo and Quad range.

Note* Reported temps will be much higher in TAT than speedfan or motherboard bios readings, they are read from internal diodes inside each core and are not comparible to non-core readings, expect temps of 60c+ even on water!"

I've been watching your thread with interest, it sounds encouraging that there is nothing wrong with your rig. 

Happy Crunching,

Pam

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

I found this here
http://www.pureoverclock.com/download.php?det=6


"TAT (Intel Thermal Analysis Tool) accurately monitors all of the individual core temperatures for Intel processors like the Core 2 Duo and Quad range.

Note* Reported temps will be much higher in TAT than speedfan or motherboard bios readings, they are read from internal diodes inside each core and are not comparible to non-core readings, expect temps of 60c+ even on water!"

I've been watching your thread with interest, it sounds encouraging that there is nothing wrong with your rig. 

Happy Crunching,

Pam

Yes, yes, I used the Intel Thermal Analysis Tool...
A few posts before I said it...

The prog show me only the Core # 0 and # 1...
There is no "button" to shop me the others... or I didn't found him...?
The cores # 0 and # 1 had the same temp like with CoreTemp ...

You have the Intel D975XBX or the D975XBX2?
Which prog you use, to look to the "heat-spreader-temp" from the CPU?
I used MotherboardMonitor, SpeedFan, AIDA32 and EVEREST... no temp from the CPU (heat-spreader)...

Now I have the probs again, why I started a few threads...

"I have probs with Simons S@H V5.15 Rev.2.2A & B"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=37974


Friendly greetings!

[Fivestar Crashtest]

Yes, I have the Bad Axe 2, so I can maybe upgrade to the QX6700 sometime.  That is disappointing to hear TAT doesn't show all four cores.

If BOINC is freezing, that is a kind of crash- did you ever run memtest to check your memory?  Some crashes I have had with other builds were with memory the board didn't like.  If I couldn't get through a full pass of memtest, I'd switch to some other memory that could and that seemed to solve my problems.  I had two sticks of Corsair Value Select 512 Mb and the only board they worked in was a VIA chipset board, they hated my NForce 3 boards.  The NForce 3 liked 256Mb sticks but not 512 Mb of the same brand.

I use Crucial Ballistix 2X512 Mb on my Bad Axe 2, ddr2 800 or PC 6400.  But I am overclocking and running it at 533 MHz, or 1:1 ratio with memory/fsb.  I am at 322 fsb and 1.35 V vcore today with 55-50 deg C according to TAT, which I think measures core temp. 

Sorry you are having these troubles, that should be a really good cruncher.  I guess I wonder about the version of BOINC, I am using 5.4.11 and am happy with those results and 2.2B Seti app.  I have not tried BOINC clients with cpu affinity.  I use a trial version of Wndows XP Pro 64 and do updates when it has them.

Regards,

Pam

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

Yes, I have the Bad Axe 2, so I can maybe upgrade to the QX6700 sometime.  That is disappointing to hear TAT doesn't show all four cores.

If BOINC is freezing, that is a kind of crash- did you ever run memtest to check your memory?  Some crashes I have had with other builds were with memory the board didn't like.  If I couldn't get through a full pass of memtest, I'd switch to some other memory that could and that seemed to solve my problems.  I had two sticks of Corsair Value Select 512 Mb and the only board they worked in was a VIA chipset board, they hated my NForce 3 boards.  The NForce 3 liked 256Mb sticks but not 512 Mb of the same brand.

I use Crucial Ballistix 2X512 Mb on my Bad Axe 2, ddr2 800 or PC 6400.  But I am overclocking and running it at 533 MHz, or 1:1 ratio with memory/fsb.  I am at 322 fsb and 1.35 V vcore today with 55-50 deg C according to TAT, which I think measures core temp. 

Sorry you are having these troubles, that should be a really good cruncher.  I guess I wonder about the version of BOINC, I am using 5.4.11 and am happy with those results and 2.2B Seti app.  I have not tried BOINC clients with cpu affinity.  I use a trial version of Wndows XP Pro 64 and do updates when it has them.

Regards,

Pam

You had probs with Corsair?

Uhh... I have Corsair CM2x1024-6400C4, they running now with 5-5-5-15 @ 800 MHz(normal)
But they are tested (permission) with 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1V & @ 800 MHz too (that's the reason why I bought them)

I have no experiences with overclocking...

With which x-x-x-x you let run your RAMs?

The seller, where I bought the PC, wanted to let run CL4, but it wasn't running (because of the BIOS, I think it was the 2333 11/27/2006... the old...)

I had updated to the newest... but I didn't had the courage to test it now again...

Now I let run the PC without the Intel Desktop Utilities prog, because you said that you had probs (freezing) with this (with BOINC too?)...
Maybe that's the reason for my probs...

If I have probs again... then I make the memtest

But I'm little confused, because I took (like I said) AIDA32, EVEREST, SpeedFan and MotherboardMonitor and they don't worked with the D975XBX2.
With which prog you look to the complete CPU temp? (not the cores, the "heat-spreader-temp")
Intel Desktop Utilities show me (you too?) only the "temperature range" ("processor thermal margin", that's the heat-spreader?) to the max. temp 65°C? (..on the middle point of the CPU (heat-spreader) QX6700))
(I think, because the man from Intel I called, couldn't tell me what this temp ("processor thermal margin") is ). My experiences, so hotter the CPU so smaller the indicate (idle=50°C, full load=25°C (FanControl ON))

Friendly greetings!


But I'm little bit confused, because with the SSSE3-Core2 Rev. 1.41 I didn't had the probs with freezing BOINC...

[Urs Echternacht]

...
Here are some more error reports attached occurring to my dual P3 yesterday. (0xc0000005) Hopefully that flaw can be found someday.

Here is my first one of these since i started using 2.2B over a week ago.

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[Fivestar Crashtest]

You had probs with Corsair?

That was just some ddr400.  My XMS ddr2 800 works great. 

I am running 5-5-5-15 while I am overclocking, maybe later I will try to tighten the timings.  If you are not overclocking, you should be able to run 4-4-4-12 with no problems.  I did. 

Now I let run the PC without the Intel Desktop Utilities prog, because you said that you had probs (freezing) with this (with BOINC too?)...
Maybe that's the reason for my probs...

I just didn't like the way the program acted, I was worried it would steal cpu cycles, sitting there in my systray.  It seemed to take forever to respond.  I don't think it made BOINC crash, or anything.

But I'm little confused, because I took (like I said) AIDA32, EVEREST, SpeedFan and MotherboardMonitor and they don't worked with the D975XBX2.
With which prog you look to the complete CPU temp? (not the cores, the "heat-spreader-temp")
Intel Desktop Utilities show me (you too?) only the "temperature range" ("processor thermal margin", that's the heat-spreader?) to the max. temp 65°C? (..on the middle point of the CPU (heat-spreader) QX6700))
(I think, because the man from Intel I called, couldn't tell me what this temp ("processor thermal margin") is ). My experiences, so hotter the CPU so smaller the indicate (idle=50°C, full load=25°C (FanControl ON))

Friendly greetings!


But I'm little bit confused, because with the SSSE3-Core2 Rev. 1.41 I didn't had the probs with freezing BOINC...

I guess I am satisfied if it shows me the core temperature.  As long as the core isnt' too hot, I am happy.  Do they put sensors on the heatspreader?  I didn't use Desktop Utilites that long and don't remember "temperature range" or "thermal margin". 

When I googled "processor thermal margin", your post here  was the top result.  I think it must be some kind of engineering term, and your Intel man wasn't an engineer.  I don't think it is a temperature, it is a range of temperatures your processor can stand. 

If your trouble started when you changed from 1.41 to 2.0 or 2.2, I guess that is what we should look at.  From what everyone has said, your processor is not too hot.  Maybe you just got a corrupted download of the app.  Maybe you could download it again and replace it with a fresh copy.  I think the 2.2B apps are doing great, my RAC is still climbing.  I don't see why it should be any different for you and it should be better with the QX6700. 

Regards,

Pam

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

Hello!

Thanx for your support!

I wanted to let run the 4-4-4-12 with the RAMs, but this wasn't function...
After the Power-On Self-Test (POST) I got the message that the actually settings are not good to let run the PC...
I couldn't let him run... he don't wanted...
I musted go back to the "normal" settings (CL5)

When I bought the PC, I said the seller can make the CL4 settings, but to this time with the old BIOS it wasn't possible to let run too... so he called to Intel and the people said that the BIOS must be improved...
I have the newest BIOS...

How you had let it run?
In the BIOS I can select AUTOMATIC - USER - MODE 1 (or like this )
If I select MODE 1 that's the Corsair 4-4-4-12 settings... with 2.1 V


When I let run Intel Desktop Utilities the Windows Task-Manager said that the prog take no CPU-cycles.


If I remember right there is a temp-sensor direct in the middle of the heat-spreader from the CPU.


I let run him all the time with the first copy of Simons app and it's running good now since I terminated the Intel Desktop Utilities...

I don't know, but I will see what will be...


At the weekend I changed the heatsink and in the compound manual they say that the first 200 hours the compound need a few circles of cool- hot temps... ON/OFF the PC... so I can let run him 22 hours without probs 2 hours to cool down and then again 22 hours... I will see what will be if I let run him again 24/7... hope he will do the work successful again...


@ Simon and/or the optimizer-team
This can be the reason for my probs?
I used:
Intel Desktop Utilities Version 3.0.6.10 and 3.0.10.15
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/software/idu/index.htm
I'm not a programmer so maybe if you have time you can look to this software?

[CAPTAIN FUTURE]

I am not really amused...

*§"%&/(/)/$%"$$"§%*

I had Boinc frozen again...

Now I took a new copy of the app and Microsoft .NET V2 and the new Intel Desktop Utilities V3.0.11.16 because I had probs without this prog too...

So... if I have again the probs... then I think I must delete the HDD and make a fresh WinXP to the drive...

Now I don't have updates from the Microsoft homepage, I had only the CD-Rom (WinXP Home SP2) in the drive...
So maybe I must take all the updates from Microsoft to have a good working PC?
(he is running only for S@H, so I don't make safety-relevant work with him...)

[Roger the Shrubber]

Bear with me please - I ain't too bright.  When I examine my pc I get this: Genuine Intel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6] [fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx]

I see optimized versions for single cpu sse2 or dual core sse3 but I assume I have a dual core sse2.  Why is there not a dual core sse2 - it would probably help if I knew what all that means but heck that would require work on my part!